Wednesday, January 7, 2009 - 19:33
The fact on Scientology
Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard on his deathbed told his son
"You know how to get rich... start a religion." admitting that Scientology is nothing but a fictionally created story.
Scientology is nothing but a corporation that thrives off the ignorance of it's followers by selling them and whoever else books, and courses on how to "improve" themselves spiritually.
One of their expensive scams is that they will sell you for extremely large
amounts of money a series of books that in the end are supposed to teach you how to walk through walls.... and after spending long hours of self deceptive meditation, a lot of money, and reading you become brainwashed to believe that you can actually walk through walls and when you try to and end up bumping your nose against the wall you are told that you couldn't do it because you're not ready yet however there are more books and courses available that will someday make it possible for you to do so for larger amounts of money butt not really.
Scientology = manipulative corporate scam brainwashing moneybaggers club
Scientologist = manipulated misguided fool
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Kazakh court bans scientology organization in Karaganda region
Karaganda, February 16, Interfax - The Economic Inter-District Court of Karaganda, the administrative center of the Karaganda region in Kazakhstan, has banned the Church of Scientology in the Karaganda region.
"The court ordered the liquidation of the Church of Scientology organization due to illegal entrepreneurship and profit-making. The court ruled to create a special commission to deal with the liquidation procedure," says the verdict read by Judge Zhaksylyk Baymoldin, an Interfax correspondent reports.
Upon studying the investigation materials, the court ruled to fully satisfy the prosecution's request to ban scientologist activities in the region and rejected a counter-lawsuit filed by the plaintiff, the judge said.
The materials collected during an audit of the Church of Scientology's activity in the Karaganda region included accounting documents and price lists for commercial services rendered by this organization.
The audit revealed that the Church of Scientology had earned about 30 million tenge in recent years (more than $200 thousand).
Meanwhile, the scientologists said they intend to appeal the verdict.
"We will not put up with attempts to violate our right to the freedom of religion in Kazakhstan," President of the Karaganda-based Church of Scientology Vadim Vitushkin said in a statement.
source Interfax Religion
http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=5711
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A trial date has been set in a fraud case against the Church of Scientology in France. The date for the first hearing has been set for May 25, 2009. If the Church is found guilty, then Scientology would be ruled illegal and would be banned from operating in France.
Prosecutors claim that the Church is engaged in illicit practices in attempts to sell their alleged self-help material. The Church also faces charges of illegally operating as a pharmacy by illegally treating individuals with prescription medications.
The charges come from an unnamed woman, who in 1998 purchased nearly 140,000₣ (US$30,000) worth of Scientology self-help material which allegedly included prescription drugs. After a few months passed, the woman said she felt like she was being scammed.
Following several complaints from other unnamed individuals and an investigation, judge Jean-Christophe Hullin ordered the Church's 'Celebrity Center', and the seven managers to be put on trial for fraud and "illegally practicing as pharmacists."
On September 8, 2008 the Church released a statement following the order to stand trial saying that they felt "stigmatized" by the French judicial system.
"The special treatment reserved for the Church of Scientology Celebrity Center raises questions about the equality of the justice system and the presumption of innocence," the Church said in a statement to the press.
This is not the first time the Church has been accused of fraud. They have also been convicted of it several times, including the Church's founder, L. Ron Hubbard who was convicted of fraud in 1978. In 1997 the Church was convicted of fraud in Lyon and 1999 in Marseille. The 1978 convictions included Hubbard and and his wife at the time, Mary Sue, and two other Scientologists.
The 1978 convictions included Hubbard and four Scientologists after a seven year investigation into the Church by the French authorities. The court ruled that Hubbard and the others were using Scientology by making fraudulent claims that it was curing people from diseases to "increase the financial revenue" of the Church, and the ruling ordered Hubbard and the Scientologists to serve four years in prison.
However, Hubbard, along with the four Scientologists fled France, never to return, and never served a prison term.
Source: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Trial_date_set_for_fraud_case_against_Church...
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There must be 50 ways to leave your Scientology master
You just slip out the back, Jack
Make a new plan, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
and get yourself free
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Maybe there's a point in the middle.... Science is great, that's the way to understand clearly a lot of things that look "magic". It's good for your brain.
But there's also a soul (or something like that) that can't be understood that easy and heaven or hell is a way to understand. I mean when a good person and a bad person die, there must be a difference: it's Heaven
i think everbody knows scientology's a sham..
and i apologize to you ---and thanx for pointing this out to the other ozznoids,that might be thinking of falling into the scientology hole---gotta look after the ozznoids
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I don't have a personal grudge
I'm not carving them up I'm dishing out the truth
It's not keeping me from doing my work
however if I can help anyone avoid falling into the crap trap of Scientology
I will
hey rob why are you carving up scientologists-----
do you have a personal grudge---
personally i dont care, but your time could be better spent.....
the way i see things ,if someone leaves me alone,i'll leave them...
im not picking on you ,,but im concerned,you seem to be a good guy
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Here's an interview I found about an hour ago with L. Ron Hubbards' son
http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/scien240.html
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Here's an interview I found about an hour ago with L. Ron Hubbards' son
http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/scien240.html
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yes rob,my cup runnith over-everyday i see the answers to my questions..........................
Its not about religion,its still about faith.i'll take my faith to the grave....................................
none can shake my resolve
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gimpnoid
Well if you haven't seen it
I guess all you can rely on is faith.
Here's a quote from My Psychic Autobiography
Heaven is real, I have been there in this lifetime where I looked down at my sister who was and is walking above the mist of the pink clouds of Heaven where she spoke to me only with her eyes. It was a dream that was not a dream. At the point of her death even though I was finding missing children for near two years I didn't believe in Heaven because, being the biggest skeptic I know, I had to see it to believe it. When she died I had no desire to see her in Heaven as I did not beleive in it. A few days after she died I had the dream that was not a dream and recognize it to be so. I don't believe in Heaven I know Heaven to be true, and God kills no one. Other than that I'm not religious, never read The Bible and only go to church for funerals and weddings. It's so easy to be a good person. Try it you'll like it
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yep gotta have faith
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I,
Hear Ya, Gimp!
This World is Not about Heaven or Hell.....
It is About Faith in God!
Sincerely,
David
but for us peeps that havent,,FAITH will do
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gimpnoid
It's not about faith for me
I have been there in this lifetime
and I know it to be true
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yep gotta have faith
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gimpnoid
I am a Chemist, science explains everything. All those things that "science can't explain", like heaven, is because they are not real, It's called faith and there's no way to discuss about faith
hey rob do i owe you a tenna for my previous question-----its good to see you help for free,should be more of it-good onya rob
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Sorry about not knowing about someplace you've never been to
don't worry about it
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Alice Cooper
ya I went to his concert here in Montreal a couple of months ago
now that was worth it!
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gimpnoid I don't get paid for my Child Search activities which I've been doing free of charge on a daily basis since 1991.
I don't advertise it however a few times a year I'm asked for a private reading which I charge $50 an hour
for over the phone or in person or $10 per question over the net.
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half time change sides--lol---c'mon guys play nice----
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gimpnoid
I'm,
Sorry , dude....
I Went Thru This Already on The Nights With Alice Cooper Forum. I get People so Pissed Off When I Argue With Them That They Go INSANO!
& I MEAN INSANO!
It's Not Worth It. Go & Help Somebody, Please....
Sincerely,
Dave
hey rob do you get payed for your sychicness,just curious
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I know someone who got sucked into that crap. I didn't know he was a Scientologist until one day, about 4 years ago, he said "Rob here's a book you should read." He passed me Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard. I laughed and said "L. Con Flubbfart ha forget it." For the first time in the years since I've known the guy he displayed anger and I'm talking very angry!!! Verbally with an agressive face.
After that display he went on to talk about the ability to walk through walls, he hasn't reached that level but he plans on getting there etc...
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Well doswizard you're wrong
it's quite understandable
you haven't seen Heaven so you can't grasp the concept of it being a reality thaty is beyond the senses
however whether you believe in it or not is of no matter
Heaven is open to all good souls
I like science too butt just because science can't explain something does not mean that thing does not exist.
Science can't explain what I do
however what I do exists
Here's the first documented case in the history of journalistic documentation
The articles of Le Journal de Montreal 31-05-98 & 01-06-98 on my site are certifiably acceptable in a court of law as evidence. In the article of Le Journal de Montreal 31-05-98 I stated to the mother Saturday morning over the phone within two minutes of her call that her son who had been missing for near a month and a half had accidentaly drowned and in which body of water his corpse was. The next day they found his corpse floating in the body of water which I had pointed out to the mother the day before and this was printed in the Le Journal de Montreal of 01-06-98. When the mother called me she had asked if I heard of her sons' case. I said "No but I can help." She then filled me in on the details that he had been missing for near a month and a half and that police with hundreds of volunteers, divers, searh dogs, and helicopters had been searching daily since the day he went missing with no results as to what happened to him, whether he was living or dead, and his whereabouts. Within two minutes I told her that her son had accidentaly drowned and in which body of water his corpse was and the next day they found his corpse floating in the body of water I had pointed out to the mother. The "J.E. en direct" interview which is on my site was taken live on air the day after the body of the child was found where I had stated it would be. These and other newspaper interviews as well as news and TV documentary interviews are on my site http://childsearchpsychic.tripod.com
... and I have been doing this daily on an international level since 1991
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I agree with Gimpnoid about the aliens being futuristic people coming to the past for whatever reason...................................................... : )
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hmmmm the word aliens ---a lie ns------strange concepts for non earth entities( nee for short)i figure the aliens all people believe in scifi or whateva are the easiest concept to agree with,but charles darwins theory of evolution will prove eventually that us humans now wiil evolve for whatever reason to look stranger than we hope too,,so i say the aliens that have been sighted (little green men with big eyes)are probably time travelers from our future--our great great great great great great grandchildren coming back to help or keep an eye on this planet as we axsidently terrafirm it for there(our)existance to keep going--i love this subject and could go on for hours but i wont bore you good peeps
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gimpnoid
I,
said Science will Explain Everything. It will Say that Heaven is a Human Concept and so only Exists in the Minds of those Experiencing it, but until there is Scientific Proof that an Actual Place Exists in our Universe Denoted Heaven, Good Luck to Ya!
Maybe they could Resurrect Somebody Who has Been to Heaven & ask them what it was Like & then Send them Back with all sort of Instruments to Test Their Theories.....
Seems a bit Rude, but....
Who knows?
I only meant to say that Science will Explain away all SuperStition, such as The Earth is Flat or that the Sun Revolves around the Earth. I know as A Scientist that the Earth is Indeed a Globe and The Sun & Earth Revolve around a Common Centre of Gravity.
Science will be more Acceptable to Humanity because it can be Proven Time after Time.
Given Enough Time, Humanity will Rely more upon their Scientific Theories & Discoveries than God as an Entity. Take the Automobile for Instance. Most people think of it as a Human Invention having nothing to do with God and so they Do away with God in Their Daily Commute to Work. They are more concerned with Traffic or what Have You....
The Point is, Humanity will have no Further use for God, even as a Concept, but when the Real God shows Up; People will Gladly look the Other Way.....
Sad, but True.
I refer of Course only to Modern Man, but someday, Modern Man will be The Majority & EveryOne Else will be Extinct......
This says Nothing of My Value System of Course. I Place God Before All Else. God has Told us Not to put Anything Else Before God in the Scriptures & so I simply do That. It saves alot of Grief....
Oh, Well. Rambling....
Besides, Aliens probably have a Completely Different Concept of God & we will have to Deal with them Someday & work out a Way to Agree on Exactly what God is Apart from a Human Invention.
Sincerely,
Dave
P.S. Philosophically speaking, Referring to God is a lot like referring to Substance. It Simply cannot be Explained apart from it's Characteristics & so in Reality Doesn't even Exist.
yep thats easy to grasp,,but i still enjoy science,me and my son have great banter about time travel,and we both agree its possible,,,,,but i still have faith in a higher being and purpose..do you think its wrong to like both sides of the coin
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gimpnoid
butt if you want to hear a scientific explanation
grasp the concept that all your emotions are retained in everything you touch
when you throw a stone in anger that stone retains the angry energy you transmited to it
whwn you slap a table with a good laugh that table retains the good energy you transmitted
feeling good... ok i'll bet back to this later sorry got ta take care of buisness
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oh wow im gonna leave this one alone now--i beleive in heaven but i really like science
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gimpnoid
Sorry Dave
science will not explain everything it has no concept of Heaven which is beyond it's reach
beyong the senses, and beyond equation
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now thats funny dave
i always thought you had to do the washing before any irony
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gimpnoid
Well,
being Somewhat of a Scientist Myself; I Think Science is Merely a Substitute For God.....
Although Science Will Eventually Explain Everything & thus Do Away with a Firm Need for Belief in God, God Will Nonetheless Become So Angry at Being Forsaken By The Human Race That It Will Destroy All of Creation in an Armageddon; Teaching Us Our Final Lesson that We Are in Fact Not God.
Truth in Irony, but Christ has Warned us......
Sincerely,
David
oh i have no time for moneygrubbers whatever there religion
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gimpnoid
my religion is to love the planet and everything in it and to have faith in a higher being and purpose
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butt if you're a profiter you're a fool
at least on this subject of fiction
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unless you're a fool and/or a profiter
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it doesn't suck because it doesn't exist
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