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Ozzy christian?

No, I'm not trying to bash Ozzy or anything..but I'm just wondering because you always hear about anti-sabbath/ozzy christians out there..but if you read the lyrics to "After Forever" By Sabbath..

"Well I have seen the truth, yes I've seen the light
and I've changed my ways
And I'll be prepared when you're lonely and scared
at the end of our days

Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say
If they knew you believe in God above?
They should realize before they criticize
that God is the only way to love"

But then he calls himself the Prince of Darkness >.< Kinda confused

Válaszok

ozzy is not anti-christian...he singing about god and evil and Nothing else...satanism having Another tradition For example marilyn manson and black metal bands...
ozzy just little crazy!!!

Ozzy's religious view can be described with three words: deeply religious non-believer!

i have a opinion but there is not enuf internet for me to blurb it out,,i have been baptised three religions, lutheran-- church of england -- catholic

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

that was what i was born into - what a crock Andy. seriously. if you look into the people in the legacy of that particular LONG LIVED entity, there are some big time nutzoids in that religion. they say "when you see the thing where it should not be, then you will know the end times have come upon you." the only thing i can figure that should not be somewhere is the presence of evil in what should be the place of love. so what makes more sense then 60 years after someone with a message of deep love and mending of all the harsh things of Judaism, all the legalism and condemnation and separation from love... that the birth of a dynasty historically littered with men passing on the wrong dead messages, abusing others (very f***ed up individuals), and reaping death and destruction everywhere to rise up and consume all things related to the most purest form of love that lived. and by a dynasty i mean organized religion, of which Roman Catholic church is but a part, though historically a strong and powerful one, of that entity.

they say "you shall know a tree by it's fruit." that one (organized religion) is a bad one, mostly rotten fruits come from it. there are a few kind hearts, but most of the rest are sick, evil, rotten things. the entity in large surely has been historically.

it keeps so many from even opening the pages to read the words of truth and kindness...by giving the illusion and image of "holiness" to the most profane sick and evil souls.

ya know?

Have you had a snif of the barmaids appron, or have you had 2 or 3 wine gums?

I have not started the book, but I beleieve that Ozzy was a roman candle sorry roman Catholic and Sharon is half Roman Cathoilc (mothers side) and Jewish (on her father Dons, side)

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Number 1

oh wow im toooo hungover for a post

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

Y u guys gettingn so hung up on whether or not Ozzy is Christian....?He just IS like I Am....I've been influenced by soo much around me from my formative years and on. This included christian influences as well as influences from socio-economic background/like family etc... Is it Really important cos I think most of us are searching and I tihnk its excellent that his songs express an understanding of inner conflicts!!

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cecilky

great topic, but strayed a little in the middle there into really technical (OMG) discussions, don't cha think OjZoZhYn12.03.48 and Scapegoat ~ whoa...where'd THAT come from?

i am not sure myself, but whomever said ozzy is searching ... and that there are other religions based on God (judaism and muslim)...that's a good point.

in I Don't Want to Stop it says "too many religions but only one God..." which is a monotheistic perspective. whether the Ozzman wrote those particular words or not, i don't believe he'd sing them if it were something he really felt at odds with. 3 main religions are monotheistic - Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

when seeing the video of his restatement vows of marriage to Sharon, i get the impression that he still very much seeks spirituality and blessings, and took the matter of his vows seriously. he was very moved by the ceremony, you can see that (OMG! and why do i love this man?)

the person marrying them again seemed to be from judaism - or some morph of judeo-christian faith.

seems to me (and what do i know lol) Ozzy would reflect on teachings of Jesus, Ghandi, and other spiritual (even ordinary Pay it Forward) people as they have entered his life. maybe not so much in his past as he would today, because of the sobriety factor. but at no time do i get close-minded or atheistic or satanist at all.

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I can't seem to see you baby ... although my eyes are open wide ... but I know I'll see you once more ... when I see you, I'll see you on the other side

hey ozznoids im here

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

Ya its sad really, it use to be a pretty happin place. Despite all that I still drop in here from time to time and take a look at what my fellow Ozzy fans are chattering about, even if sometimes it is a wee bit out of control, or just plain ole silly.

Anyway good to see you pop in here Outlaw, been a while huh?? lol

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Peace

Scape

<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
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no one comes here anymore. lol

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Bleed Black Label Society
Strength Determination Merciless Forever
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TE is an abbreviation for the sabbath album Technical Ecstasy. OzzyJohn was big on abbreviations, lmao! Have not seen him here in ages, all in all he is a good guy, I miss talking to him....

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Peace

Scape

<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
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OjZoZhYn12.03.48..... who is TE??? and to Miseracordium: who should listen to the lyrics of Revelation ( Mother Earth ) from the Blizzard of Ozz album and there is also some help in the song(s): Children of the Grave from the Master of Reality album and Running Out of Time from the Down to Earth album.
Hope that helps....

<strong>In,

My Opinion, Belief in God is not Soley based on Christianity. Take Judaism or Muslim for Example.

God is Present in All of these Religions, but the Primary Difference lies in the Nature of The Messiah.

Ozzy doesn't Preach, but He does have a Tendency to UnderMine alot of Conventional Concepts concerning Religion. As a Matter of Fact, The whole 'Sabotage' - Black Sabbath Album seems infused with a Certain Oriental Perspective. Like anyone, Oz is Probably just Searching for The Truth, but no Matter what Flavor You Choose; One Should be Devoted to Ones' Own Beliefs....

Sincerely,

Dave

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as far as ever saying the prayer of salvation for himself i dont know and thats between him and the Lord and not for any of us to know , i do know he does give credit to where credit is due when it comes to his talent and riches...he knows who gave it all to him
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make a joke and i will sigh, you will laugh and i will cry,happiness i cannot feel and love to me is so unreal

I think - based on Ozzy's lyrics that he haz more faith - than many who go to church and are religious! I also think that organized christianity seeks to control believers thoughts - starting with tha council of Nicea - up to tha present - but that real believers find fellowship - with others of tha same faith - thru Spirit - not a church building or institutionalized system of belief! Where in tha Gospel does it ever call satan tha price of darkness - read Matthew 6:6 and 10:27 and and concerning darkness.
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I met ozzy in March of 1984, back stage at a concert that I won a writing contest to get on stage with him when I waz 14. I waz speechless - something very unusual 4 me!
google me!

listen to the albums down to earth and black rain!

ozzy gets his message across in these two albums.

Listen carefully to: running out of time - down to earth, facing hell - down to earth, gets me through - down to earth. dont wanna stop - black rain.

Peace out ppl
\m/ ozzy for life \m/

Under The Sun is about self relization, discovering your own idea of truth or what to believe. Its like the movie Dogma, just because the church says something doesn't mean it is right, is all the song is saying. But I wouldn't doubt their faith.

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Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)

Names like that are given out by the public that grow. Ozzy and the rest of the Sabs are/were Christians, Catholics I believe, actually I think Geezer and Bill have strayed a bit but both very spiritual, but Tony still wears his cross at every show.

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Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)

I think at least Ozzy is christian, cos at the end of every show he shouts "God bless you all!", perhaps during the show too.

Then, let Him bless us all.

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May Rock n' Roll be our guide throughout the damnation!

i'm christian and i'm not anti-ozzy/sabbath. i even like marilyn manson!! i mostly like ozzy and emo-core music like my chemical romance and the used. i think ozzy could very well be a christian.
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Not really Sincere,
Twiggy

Did you come to stare or wash away the blood?

Nah, you guys aren't listening, he IS. Not maybe or perhaps. I doubt he goes to church every sunday, maybe he does on Christmas and Easter, but the guy believesin Jesus Christ and celebrates Christmas.

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Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)

JESUS IS LORD......BELIEVE IN THE GOOD THINGS IN LIFE ,DO WHATS RIGHT,satan IS DESTRUCTION, f*** EVIL s*** AND EVERYONE WHO LIVES FOR IT ...ROBOTS TO A DAMNED GOD SLAVES OF s***,GO AND STAY IN HELL ,JESUS IS LORD!!........GOD , FAMILY , JOB , BEER , LOVE , ZAKK , BLACK LABEL SOCIETY, AND THE MAN WITH THE VISION ,OZZY, S.D.M.F.... BEYOND FOREVER

to dale.beerzombie: you are so right!!!! thanx for saying that and i agree with you totally. i just need my boyfirend to see something like that... and my sister and her boyfriend...

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Not really Sincere,
Twiggy

Did you come to stare or wash away the blood?
-my chemical romance, life on the murder scene, desert song

I have always assumed that Ozzy has had some form of the Christian faith taught to him at one point or another throughout his lifetime. Ozzy like most of us was probably raised within a Christian home that practiced some variation of the Christian belief system. The sect that he came from is not really all that relevant, but I also agree he most likely was raised in a Catholic home, as is true for most of England’s children, past as well as present day.

I first picked up on this through his choice of words & lyrics in his songs with Black Sabbath, as well as the many interviews he has done in years past where he has always given props to a higher power, hence I ultimately have determined he does indeed stock faith in some sort of divine deity. As to what particular one it is? It really has no consequence to me; it will have absolutely no effect on me as to whether I will purchase his cds or merchandise ever again in the future.

Now as for him going to church on a regular basis, I tend to think not, but who is to say. I guess it all depends on what your definition is of this thing called church? For me it’s standing in the woods, just me alone with my thoughts, & emotions. Reaching out to whatever it is that may be pulling all these strings down here on earth. So if that constitutes for one attending church, then I would say Ozzy has done that more than a few times during his lifetime, as well as have I.

Peace

Scapegoat

I hate to be nit picky, but post like that can lead to confusion and ignorance, Ozzy hardly wrote any lyrics in Sabbath :)

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Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)

Christ on a crutch guy, Ozzy had more input than one may tend to think he had, but I wont squabble with you to much, considering Tony's ego was probably far to inflated back in them days to allow Mr. Osbourne to put in his fair share of words & lyrics in the mix. I know for a fact Ozzy didn’t contribute much musically, some stuff on keyboards, or so I have heard. But in the end I kind of think it’s a cheap shot at Ozzy by insinuating he didn’t contribute at all, or enough????

And as for being nit picky, DON'T BE! lol

Peace bro

Scapegoat

Oh no, Ozzy contributed tremendously he laid down those great melodies on top of Tony's crunching doom filled riffs. I'm just saying that Geezer wrote most of the lyrics not because he was told to by Tony but because Ozzy 'doesn't have a way with words'. It was not due to Tony's ego, I think he grew that a bit later ;). Tony hasn't written many lyrics either I think in the Ozzy-era the only lyrics he wrote were on Changes, I believe he wrote the entirety of the lyrics and music on that track. I don't think it was until 7th Star that he took to writting lyrics again. For 7th Star even, Tony worked with Geoff Nichols.

Even now and in his solo band ozzy didn't write all that much, certainly more than with Sabbath and I think more in the Rhoads days but Daisley and Zakk I belive write a lot of the lyrics. For DTE they even brought in a host of writers. After listening to Black Rain, I think the majority of the lyrics have Ozzy written all over them. You can here Zakk in places but I think Ozzy contributed more on this album than any of his previous albums.

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Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)

Well it’s refreshing to finally talk with someone that is aware of how much Geezer contributed to Sabbath. Geezer is truly awesome; I am a big, big fan of the guy.

I am curious how you feel about technical ecstasy? Are you of the same mind that with that album they definitely showed how each of them had evolved as musicians, & what direction their sound was taking them in. I really enjoy that effort from them mostly due to that fact, that you could hear the Ozzy that we got with blizzard, & diary, as well as Iommi's guitar sound, it really kind of gave you a heads up on what was to come with Dio joining Sabbath an all. Just curious as to what track you think from that album best represents that theory, & what is your fav song from technical ecstasy? I really got off on all moving parts (stand still) & she’s gone. To be honest I almost like she’s gone as well if not better than changes, what about you bro????

Scapegoat

I think TE is he black sheep of the Ozzy-era catelog, and very underrated. Sorta the stepping stone from Sabotage to NSD. My favorite track from TE has to be It's Alright lovely song Bill is a wonderful musician. 2nd favorite has to be Gypsy Bill's drumming shines, I was very frustrated trying to learn the drum part to that, tookk mee a while to figure out he had a tamborine back track. I think its a very good album, but I need to be in just the right mood to listen to it.

However, I gotta disagree about it forshadowing the sound on H&H and MR, unless you are talking about You Won't Change me. On TE I hear a steady progression of the Sabbath sound since Vol 4. Starting with that Sabbath gradually started to change ending with a rather jazzy feel on NSD. H&H was 90 degree turn, but sorta keeping the keys that would remain. On H&H Tony went back to his doomy riffs of MOR but with a very different sound. Although I enjoy the sound on TE and NSD it is a sound that can become nostalgic very quickly, I think Tony realized this aswell which is why H&H sounds so different.

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Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)

I agree with you about TE being the black sheep of the Sabbath Catalog, & under rated to say the least. As for "its alright" by Bill, I am sorry I didn’t list that one, considering it’s the only Sabbath song featuring Bill alone that I am aware of, & yes Bill is kind of over looked as far as rock drummers go. I have always thought that Bill got over looked during his era with guys like John Bonham, & Keith Moon getting so much of the glory. In retrospect I think its kind of bulls***, especially since modern metal has a big tribal influence in it, & I kind of think Bill’s style was also in that flavor, not exactly but I can hear traces of it in there. Bill has always been a drummer that played from the heart more so than being all hung up in the technical way of drumming, not that the man doesn’t have definite skills that shine.

I am surprised you don’t agree with Tony’s guitar sound on TE sounding a lot more polished than his previous recordings with Sabbath up to that point. I could definitely hear a difference in the tone & distortion he used in TE as compared to lets say never say die. I thought it kind of gave a sneak peek at what Iommi had up his sleeve, because by the time he recorded heaven & hell Tony’s sound was dramatically different in my opinion, maybe it was the introduction of better outboard gear such as processors ect. I mean you can still tell its Iommi, but a wiser much more experimental Iommi, it’s a shame that Osbourne was let go, I think it would have been great for Ozzy to have been a part of all that. As for the jazz thing I personally never got that vibe, maybe a little. But I always heard way more blues come out in Iommi’s music with Sabbath, of course I may be a little biased since I have never gave a squirt for jazz, to me jazz is nothing more than a musicians thing. Weird since I play bass that I don’t really have a love for jazz, but to me its way to abstract & basically a little self-indulgent. I can see it being fun to play, but to be a listener of it, well to me it’s just a bunch of musicians wankin themselves off on the fact of how well they can play. As for you hearing it in there that’s cool, we all walk away with our own ideas of where a musician is at as far as influences, technic, and creativity in his career. Just for me I never picked up on it that much… As for Iommi’s doomy thing, I feel its always been there, stronger on some albums than others, but always been there. I have always been a little on the dark side of life, and it shows in my taste in music, film, & art. So I am a big, big fan of doomy lol. I look forward to your thoughts on all this, & to your response, till then take it easy bro.

Peace

Keeping all this in mind, guys, don't forget the lyrics to Black Sabbath's "Under the Sun". Look them up real quick right now, it's off the Vol. 4 album.