Flying high again. I really think that times can only change what ever the out come will be. Thank Goodness for the light in life. But for the dark hours in our lives and the choises that are made,cause the out come!
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f*** it lets just have Satan do the news! Hahahahahahahaaaaa

Boo!

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

Cable news channels are just another form of entertainment that gets passed off as legit. Why not but some our top metal entertainers in front of the cameras reading the news? Oh right, they might tell us the truth. A debate format show with Ozzy and Dio shouting at one another would really perk up CNN's programming. Geezer Bulter could moderate. Alice Cooper could certainly make Fox News Channel a little more tolerable.

thanks hand i thought about it for a long time after the crash

Scape, vampire, that was well put.

I concur, I concur!

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

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vampire01 i agree with you goat fate is horrible at times and i must agree if ozzy was high or drunk on the plain he might have pravoked it but he wasnt on the plain and we wont know what would have been

I would like to think Ozzy would have stopped the goofy s*** they were doing, but again as I said I think that theory would depend on if Ozzy was sober or not, after all this is the guy that snorted up ants ok? If he will do ants up the nose whats a few nose dives in an airplane I ask ya, lol.

Anyway fate ruled other wise and randy is gone, no changing that fact, f***in blows don't it?

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

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vampire01 if ozzy was on the plane i dont think it would have went down i think ozzy would have said or done something to change the out come.....i dont think there will be a guitarist who can match rhoades

Honestly who can say, maybe if Ozzy had been on the plane he would have told them to stop the stupid s***, then again if he was high or drunk he may have encouraged it, who knows really, would ah, could ah, should ah, whats done is done, Randy is gone, and the music world lost another metal god, sucks anyway you look at it......

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

Still, the whole order of things would be different if Ozzy got on the plane...maybe it would've clipped the bus or maybe not.

I think everyone who wasn't on the plane were on the bus.

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If I am right though, Ozzy wasn't the only one on the bus at the time of the collision, I am pretty sure there were others on board, I will look it up, or you guys can. Here a few months back I read the accident report online, it gave a very detailed account of what happened, and who was where, etcetera, etcetera. Sad s*** to say the least, not a pretty scene at all.

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

If Ozzy was on the plane, they wouldn't be nosediving an empty bus.

I think that if OZZY had been awake that might of also been up in that plane????

I concur my brother, I concur!

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

Divided we are conquered, only united can we remain free.

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I hear ya in layman's terms thats exactly what happened I suspect, no pun intended of course!

lmao!

Later bro!

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

I wouldn't call it a holy war, I'd call it a c**k war. I think the reason we went to war with Iraq is Sadam said he had a bigger c**k than Bush so Bush bombe the s*** out of him.

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I agree with you that we have had our civil liberties pretty much pissed on by this administration, and using this so called war on terror as the excuse in order to do so, I wont argue that one with you at all, not ever.

As I am sure you are fully aware we put American Japanese in camps back during WW2, and they were basically fenced up like criminals, animals in cages. Now I hate that fact, just as any true believer in democracy should, but also in my countries defense we were at war after all. Do you think we should do the same here with any Middle Eastern citizens, or are we right in not keeping a better eye on them and allowing them to remain part of our society?

As for us releasing key figures of Al Queda, I have never heard that one yet, and if its true it wouldn’t really surprise me, all I can say is it f***in figures. As for us taking care of s*** here at home, I am 100% for that one, but sadly chum even if we pull all our troops out today, come home and reinforce our military, as well our economy, they the terrorist cells of the world, mostly middle eastern are not going to let this ever f***in rest. So with that being a realization here, what do you suppose we do now, because what was, and what should have been is long gone? The fact is we went in, we invaded, what’s done is done, so my question is how do we right this wrong, if it was indeed wrong of us to invade and offer our so called democracy, what is you idea on how we right this mistake, this obvious error, considering they have yet to fully embrace it? Because I think its way past the point of no return here, we have a full blown holy war going on around us, with innocent civilians on both sides getting caught up between what is essentially a over sized c**k fight, do you agree?

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

No but believe that a superior country should never make a preemptive strike, as was ours in Iraq. But are Americans worth protecting against when our own government has taken away our liberties? The government can go into your house, search it, are arrest you without a warrant if they SUSPECT you of being a terrorist. The people funding the war don't want it to end because in times of war those men make the most money. There have been dozens of reports of Al Queda generals being released after capture and the story in the news is published on orders from our own government. I think we need to take care of a s*** load of stuff here before we take "democracy" anywhere.

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See I am torn, seeing how I hear your point an all, and in some cases being totally justified, I also have a hard time ignoring the repetitive bulls*** from the middle east. I may be more inclined to agree with you a 100% on this matter if only we the United States were being attacked, but were not. These fanatical terrorist have attacked almost the entire free world at one point an time, if you don't believe me go look up all the listed known terror attacks, its mind boggling to say the very least OzzyJohn?

Again I ask you do you stock faith in our future by becoming isolationists? Or do we go to the enemy, no matter the threat, or who its from, in order to protect our mothers, daughters, an wives?

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

I say et them do their own s*** in their own country and not waste trillions of dollars and the many American lives. This "War on Terror" is terrorism itself. It makes the American people scared and look the other way when the government does things like the Patriot Act which completely tramples on our constitutional rights.

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We were also warned of an attack from the Japanese, 17 years prior to it actually taking place. But we choose to ignore that threat as well, I think for many reasons, far to many to get into here. But one of them being if you want some, well then come and get it!

As for the Twin Towers Attack, just for s***s lets say they, the terrorist had nothing to do with them falling at all, in my opinion they have done enough past travesties to justify our going in there and trying to flush them all out, and my only complant is not that were over there, its that we are not exacuting the right plan. We need to do one or two things at this point, and that is either s*** or get of the damn pot.

Thats all I have to say anymore, I will save my apathy for after the war, when and if we actually ever declare total war, again we cant even do that right, instead we are trying to fight a few, and not harm or effect the many, now how do you do that and still make war?

You simply cant!

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

Well atleast 20 countries warned the US about an attack from their intelligence. And the FBI are withholding over 80 videos of the supposed crash into the Pentagon. There were pools of molten steel at the base of of every single steel framed building that has ever collapsed from a fire (those being trade center buildings 1,2, & 7). You can't get jet fuel to burn at temperatures to melt steel.

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You guys who actually believe in this crap, please check these websites as I've posted before http://www.debunking911.com/
http://911myths.com/
Seriously, A LOT of arguments get debunked there check them out PLS!
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Your the s*** bro, much love bro, much love!

lmfao!

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

spacegoat 1st to 1000! Official OZZY Post Whore!

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So no disrespect OzzyJohn but let me get this straight, what your telling me is this, that because we have done other countries wrong, or because we have stepped out of line by occupying another country, note usually to restore some sort of peace, habitually a result of the fact that they cant even get along with each other, let alone the rest of the free world, not only bombing us Americans, but anybody that doesn't agree with their ideas set forth by their religion, much as what the Christians did by the crusades. Again let me ask you this, its ok for these fanatical Muslims to bomb, murder an kill all whom they have an grievance against, am I getting that correctly? Because if this is correct what your saying is that we deserve for every Native American, & Afro American, or the many millions of disgruntle immigrants that have flooded our country looking for solace, but were instead completely used, exploited, and s*** on, its ok for them to murder innocent people that have nothing to do with those crimes, or actions against them, you could, would turn your cheek and accept this as an appropriate answer, or solution to these grievances they have?

Again not being snooty or mean, just enjoying our little diatribe is all, lol….

Bro I understand perhaps in thinking that not all Muslims are guilty because a small minority of their faction are behaving this way, just as not every German during WW2 was a card carrying Nazi, but give me a break the reality of it all is they hate us, and to me its not entirely because we are there, it goes way deeper than all that, and you being a college kid you should realize all that. I like you have some apathy for the ones who are entirely innocent, but if we are going to make war with any nation, then it would be a good idea for us not to try and differentiate between the many social/religious groups that are over there, in other words your guilty by association, and if you don’t like that fact then help change it, don’t become a part of the over all problem. We have offered them diplomacy, yet they do not embrace it, instead they drag their feet, and the bombs keep getting bigger, when and who is going to put an end to this conflict, and at what cost?

I am curious as to what you think is the solution to this dilemma, do we pull all our armed forces out, all of them that are protecting our world interests out there, and do you think we need to do as Roosevelt did prior to the pearl harbor attacks, that we become isolationist, only Protecting ours and our own? Is this a better solution that the one we are offering them now, and do you really believe if we leave entirely the violence against us will stop, I really want your input back on all this, because I don’t know about you but despite all the blood that is on Americans hands, past as well as the present, I still love this country, and I also believe we do far more good, then bad in the world today, how else do explain part of the reason our country is going completely f***ing broke????

Later bro!

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

I AGREE! ......BUT BUSH IS STILL THE DEVIL. :)
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Alright listen....
we are all sad and we were all affected by 9/11. ok. having said that you all need to realize that we will never ever know for sure what happened. weather it was the government or it was solely the terrorists, we wont know. and it sucks that this day in age it has come to that but its f***ing true. and now we are left to deal with it. so we dont know and i dont see the use in b****ing on Ozzy's website over it because it wont solve or help anything. lol. sorry guys! just needed my 5 minutes of being a oppinionated b****. we all need those moments..... :)
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Who says they have to change? The Amish don't use technology, are they cavemen? They don't hate you because you are white and Christian they hate you because you are an American. The American government has treated them like crap for many many years. We had troops in their holy land and we wouldn't remove them. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if they had troops in our holy land, which ever stadium will hold the next superbowl :), They don't attack your faith or your race, they attack your country.

IMO It doesn't matter what you believe, you should be able to do what you want as long as it doesn't cause any sort of harm on another's life or break a crime (and pot is NOT a crime IMO ;)...).

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Well OzzyJohn call it warped if you like, but they hate us simply because we exist, and because we live in a prominently Christian nation, note all the white crosses painted on the chests of their gun targets.. They have never fully forgiven the white man for the crusades, and by not forgiving, and by refusing to change they have become a parody of what they once were. I am normally not a bigot, and I don’t believe in hating someone simply because of their race, or nationality, but as my grandfather was guilty of his contempt for the Japanese, via his being in Okinawa during WW2, I sadly also find myself harnessing contempt for the “fanatical Muslim”.

People want to say they hate us for our greed, and the wanting of their oil, never mentioning the fact that we have spent millions, trillions to give these people aide. I am not blind, I am fully aware of our wrong doings, not just to them, but to countless countries, nations, and sadly to even our own, such as the blacks, and the Indians. I also see our hypocrisy in not going after our own home bred terrorists, such as the KKK, further more any organization or group here that promotes hatred, and bigotry, no matter their affiliation.

The thing is after all the years I have grown up watching these people, and I dare use the word people, how about monsters, yes the monsters that commit these horrid acts of terrorism throughout the world hiding behind their religion as if its some sort of shield, excuse, well I have no choice but to say f*** em. If they choose to hate me for no other valuable reason other than I am Anglo-Saxon, and of the Christian belief, then I have no way of ever understanding a people that want to kill me for superficial reasons as that.

I am a pacifist at heart bro, but not when it comes down to my own demise…….

I tend to think that jealousy, our having a democracy that actually works and our prosperity play a much larger part in their hatred for us than our wanting to secure their oil. I also believe religion plays a large part in it all, their religion that has allowed them to be left behind, that has allowed them to become nothing but a bunch of misguided martyrs, only leaving murder, and chaos behind instead of greatness, something they once unquestionably had!

Not that you probably don’t already know all this OzzyJohn, but for those of you that don’t, go and check out the history of the Persian Empire, and then you may see what I mean by them now being nothing more than modern day cave men….

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Empire

All this idle talk of a Holy War has me wanting to listen to some Megadeth! lol

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

Sorry SG, but that is a very warped view and its attitudes like that that they hate us even more.

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Yes we have many things to be worried about to say the very least.

As for preparation, they had all the time they needed, its not like the twin towers weren't targeted before, if you remember they tried to nail it back in 2/26/93. I am not saying thats what definitely happened by any means, that we after that attempt engineered a plan, a way to bring those buildings down if we faced a no win situation, but I think its no crazier a theory than my government did it to simply condone going to war with the middle east, or to cover up a conspiracy of some sort. I suppose anything is possible, but personally until they have irrefutable evidence, well then I will be sticking with resting the blame on those damn fanatical Muslim pieces of s***, f*** em!

Amazing to think they once led the world, to only now eat from garbage can lids using their nasty ass fingers like a bunch of cave men. I mean how do you go from great, to living in caves, and wiping your ass with your left hand, backward f***s!

Sorry to vent peeps, but damn I cant stand them backward, left behind, neanderthal rejects!

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Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

THE TRUTH IS THAT....WE'LL NEVER REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW IS..............BUSH,....IS THE DEVIL INCARNATE!
OUR GOVERNMENT IS REALLY GOING TO s*** GUYS.
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Did you watch the video I posted. If I'm wrong nothing bad happens (perhaps I go to hell) if Im right I'll add another to my cause, which is only to find the TRUTH.

here is another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA&feature=user

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come the f*** ON! there is no way the gov was behind 9/11! Oj have you not seen the tapes of the KIDS sayin they would give their lives to kill jews and christians.KIDS 4-5 years old! these were radical islamist not wacked out americans!

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"If they had forewarning that the buildings were going to fall, then they may have had no choice but to blow them out so they would fall straight down in a domino effect style"

Sorry Goat but I can't believe that you can believe that. Demolitions take planning and if that were the case they could've told us that... vacate the buildings, and not have any lives extingished. think about it man. Advanced warning, then they could have advanced some warnings in our direction.

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goat i never even thought of that! thats probably it......

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