I totally LOVE Black rain, it's a great album, it's one of my favorites with Blizzard of Ozz, Diary ofa madman and No more tears

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I personally still enjoy Black Rain. But I would agree that it's partly dissapointing. The sound is fine for me. Maybe the songs are sort of obvious. I'm not quite sure. I think the album get's stronger at the end. The best songs for me are the last three which were not on the original album. The ones from the tour edition:
Nightmare
I Can't Save You
Love to Hate

and Trap Door is nothing but great.

I'm looking forward to the next album. Can't wait!

as said in other threads, i love Black Rain. it's an awesome and mature sounding album.

but in keeping with the statements below, my guy mentioned to me how he dislikes some of the album, particularly Trap Door. why, i say to myself...and here's what i think. sadly, he's a severe alcoholic who toys with recovery, but hasn't quite clicked with it yet. he can be very self-absorbed, not worried about anything or anyone but numero uno, as addicts tend to be. if he were to read the albums lyrics, maybe he'd realize why some of the album, but particularly Trap Door grates against him. heh heh. it's a spectacular song.

i think for him and many, everything surrounds the ultimate high, the ultimate experience (our culture has really pushed that for years). we are a shallow, self-absorbed generation living for drama, theatre, intensity. so hearing about environmental concerns, amends to others, and addiction (you know, heavy or serious stuff) might not be high on the list of things to hear. because when the candle burns swiftly - intense with a bright flame, some like that best. and so they like songs that speak to that mentality. yawn.

as for me? i'd rather ozzy continue expressing himself musically without the self-destruction and self-absorption of addiction run wild. that's been a big turn-off for me. bring on self-awareness. songs that speak to the serious issues of our life. so many bands start out doing that but then with fame become vanilla. blah.

i love the sounds i hear on Black Rain. especially in the latter part of the album.

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TRAP DOOR

Can you see your reflection
False strength, hollow protection
Run from pain and rejection
The truth stabs again

Till the skin is broken
And the cut is open
And the words once spoken
Just fade away

Too late, standing on the trap door (x4)

Big head leads to confusion
Strong heart pumps up delusion
Tough talk, one voice communion
Medicate the pain

Justify your ego
Living with denial
And the thoughts so vile
Won't fade away

Too late, standing on the trap door (x4)

It's coming
You're falling
You're on your own with no one left to blame

Can't sleep? 'cause you've made your own bed
The sentence of the helpless
Sink deep to the trial in your head
The court of the selfish
Why? Tell me why? Can't evade or escape the reality

A true lie and a broken promise
A Judas and a doubting Thomas
A tragedy just to keep you honest
Guilty always fall

Through the trap door
Fear the trap door
Through the trap door
The trap door, the trap door

No fear, too scared to look up
Can't win, nothing but bad luck
Clock ticks, your time to face up
You can't run for long

When your world is broken
Your trap door is open
The very words you choke on
Just fade away

Too late, standing on the trap door (x4)

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I can't seem to see you baby ... although my eyes are open wide ... but I know I'll see you once more ... when I see you, I'll see you on the other side

Doom we sound very much alike in regards to black rain, I was big time disappointed, I mean big time! Anyway happy to see a familiar face around here, later bro!

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Peace

Scape

Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)

I don't think you follow me

hey ozznoids yes yes lets wait n see

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Well Hand, let's wait....

Of course.....I should have known you'd disagree.........

Agree

anything ozzy does is fine with me

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wow, couldn't disagree with that last comment more. Black Rain is an amazingly mature album from a musical standpoint imho. there are some totally incredible sounds on it. as for me, i think it is incredible.

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Is anyone else familiar with producer Kevin Churko? I'm not too much a big fan of his, actually not at all. His history pretty pathetic in my opinion and doesn't have any big or major albums to his name. He's produced a variety of albums from country to rock, but that doesn't necessarily make him an expert on specific genres of music such as rock or metal.
I'm kind of disappointed that Ozzy is going back to him to make the next album. I've heard that Churko is calm, easy to work with and through ideas out so maybe that's why Ozzy's going back, but is that really worth sacrificing the quality of the album?
Honestly, I wasn't too happy with the way Black Rain turned out. I think Ozzy has the potential to make another great album before he's done. After all, he's even got Guitar God Zakk Wylde by his side to do it, but I doubt it will happen with new age producer Churko.
Ozzy get someone who knows what he's doing!!

life is a good reason to live till your old--how many good music n friends would be missed if a person dies young

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maybe is a good reason to live until november

hey mad ozzy fan keep away from sharp instruments then,,oh and keep out of the medicine chest....

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NOVEMBER!??!?!! Nooooooo i can't LIVE that long... o_O

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You're my religion, you're my reason to live.
You are the heaven in my hell.
We've been together for a long long time,
And i just can't live without you.
No matter what you do, i'm here for you......

hey thanx ozzgod---we have something similar here called australia day,,were we gather around a barbie q with family and friends and watch cricket,,but the indigenous peoples here call it stolen land day..cant blame them for thinking that..our worst shopping day is after crissy also another good day to stay home lol and yes commercialization of any holiday sux--that happens here as well

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gimpnoid... thanksgiving here in the states is supposed to celebrate the coming together of the native indians and the pilgrims from england back in the 1600s... the natives and the colonists broke bread and gave thanks...

you can read a pretty good history about it here...

today family and friends get together to eat traditional holiday meals of turkey, ham, potatoes, yams and pumpkin pie for dessert... watch a ball game or two...

the thanksgiving holiday, like christmas, is really commercialized here... most people have a four day weekend for it... traffic is always bad... the biggest shopping day of the year is the day after thanksgiving, known as black friday... a good time to stay home...

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hey ozzgod we dont have that here in aus,,whats its meaning

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thanksgiving falls on the fourth thursday of november... this year it'll be on the 26th...

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God bless Ozzy!!!!!!!!!!
When is thanksgiving?

ye s another album,,coooooooolllll
thanx for keeping us posted

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Longer we wait, better it will be :) I really hope that he'll pass by France for the next tour. If not, I'll see him in London or Belgium, whatever !
I can't wait for the next album, I hope that it will be as good as Black rain :)
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