OZZY and Famous People with Bipolar Lists (from About.com Bipolar Disorder) | The Official Ozzy Osbourne Site

OZZY and Famous People with Bipolar Lists (from Abou...

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Notable Quotes::
"I am a raging alcoholic and a raging addict and I didn't want to see my kids do the same thing."

"I can honestly say, all the bad things that ever happened to me were directly, directly attributed to drugs and alcohol. I mean, I would never urinate at the Alamo at nine o'clock in the morning dressed in a woman's evening dress sober."

About Bipolar Disorder:
List after list of famous people with bipolar disorder includes Ozzy. Multiple websites say that he was either diagnosed with or "developed" bipolar disorder after he divorced his first wife. How did this rumor get started?

Intensive searching brought to light just one site claiming to have documentation -- Wikipedia, which says the citation is from VH1's "Heavy: The History of Metal" in 2006. However, the Ozzy Osbourne biography on the VH1 website does not mention this, nor is anything about Ozzy being bipolar anywhere on the VH1 website. And an extensive search of the internet yields not a single quote from Osbourne himself stating that he has bipolar disorder.

Certainly his life bears many hallmarks of manic depression -- suicide attempts, outrageous behavior, alcohol and drug abuse. But -- the behavior and the drugs also fit the profile of a boy too young to have good judgment catapulted into rock and roll stardom at a time when drugs were the "in" thing. In an interview with Observer Music Monthly Ozzy termed sex and drugs as "the spoils of war" -- that is, the perks that came with being a famous, even notorious, rock artist.

In the same interview is this passage:

Ozzy, who has therapy and attends alcoholic support groups, has been sober for two years ("something like that"), and only takes "official" medication. This involves pills for his condition (not Parkinson's disease, as has been inaccurately reported, but Parkinsonian syndrome, which causes his tremors), pills for the side-effects, and yet more pills to counteract their side-effects. He's hoping to get off these, too. "It's hard to keep up with them - you end up going crazy!"

There it is in black and white. Those are his medications. They are not medications for bipolar disorder.

If there is any proof that Ozzy Osbourne has bipolar disorder, that proof is well-hidden.

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Okay, Flying High Again lyrics SMACK of someone experiencing manic phase of bp. No?

no gimp, you did not (regarding your deleted post saying you destroyed the machine). news flash, it's alive and well. you live in a vaccum seperated from the mainstream, actually. nothing wrong with that, but in the cities of the world it is the drumbeat of our lives.
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I can't seem to see you baby ... although my eyes are open wide ... but I know I'll see you once more ... when I see you, I'll see you on the other side

it's a basic human need to laugh, to cry, to feel. i was talking to a woman who works with me yesterday and noticed 4 bright yellow butterflies dancing over this area where a whole bunch of wild flowers on bushes and in the ground were. it was stunningly beautiful, and when i pointed it out to her she says "thank you so much for pointing that out to me ... i never notice anything anymore, it's all just work and things related to it." i told her, "girl, you need to take at least 5 minutes a day twice a day and experience nature, THAT'S what it's all about, not work." damn. that's what we have come down to, robots working for the machine.

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the thought of people paying probably at least $100 if not $300 to sit in a room and do that makes me think i'm in the wrong line of business. ya know? holy crap.

yes well ,,laughter is the best medicine,,, thats why im a gimp ha ha ha ha h aha well not really but the thought of me being one cracks me up

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gimpnoid
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right back at you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBl9HixeWf4

now tell me these aren't some loops?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOY7L88RV70

some famous people have assbergers syndrome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jkBOU9etRA
hey im laughing with him not at him,,,
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gimpnoid
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so yeah, does he have bipolar - sounds like he does. but does bipolar result in voices in his head? i don't think so, not sure what does but am thinking it's schizophrenia?

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the onset according to Ozzy was after his divorce from Thelma. from his stories about growing up, it sounds like he was having "Adult Child" issues as a young boy, though i never really hear him drawing that link to his dads addictive, abusive behaviors. he talks about shame, a sense of isolation, PTSD, and psychotic breaks. not unusual given a home steeped in physical abuse and emotional abandonment. then add the sexual abuse by other kids. duh!

maybe things finally blew out in his head given his rapid rise to superstar-dom, the drugs he was doing before during & after the divorce, the Sabbath breakup, his family collapse and guilt about his children, an instantaneous new marriage, and unresolved trauma. alot of stuff to deal with.

that and he mentioned doing LSD daily with Bill i forget for what period but it was a long time. that has to mess with your brain chemistry, you know? :o(

hey LD nothin wrong with you

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gimpnoid
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I was never blond but I turned grey as well. Anything wrong with me ??????

thats what i meant about bipolar,,its alway there,but people can overcome any diversities,,and i was blonde and now im grey,,try 2 years gaol,, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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gimpnoid
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it's my understanding there is no overcoming it, just taking the peak off the highs and dips off the lows. and that is often only possible through medications, whether Western meds or through homeopathy.

my girlfriend has a 10 year old son and she was explaining his behaviors to me, as they came out in childhood. she said he suddenly changed, got real paranoid, would sit under the table at school and try to stab kids feet with pencils. would attack them in a huge temper. at other times he would cry and feel completely worthless, not fit for walking the halls of life, often right after being really spastic. then there were times he would be on top of the world, thinking nobody was capable of the things he could do. and not grounded.

it must have been really tough. she has him on medications. and, as he enters his teens, i can imagine it will be harder. sheep, my two sons going through adolescence has been enough to turn my hair gray - cept it's blonde and like my dad it won't turn - but if it could it would. i don't know how she will manage that when his moodiness is so intense. her husband and she are big people, this boy won't be small. that's a scary thing to imagine.

bi[polar is a hard thing to overcome,,and yes as ozzy stated taking all the drugs f***s with peoples heads,, mine too,,i dont take pills for it either,,i havent got bipolar but everthing else,,its a roller coaster ride evry day,and i just get by,,its by my own doing most of it except for my fire in the sky

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gimpnoid
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FYI, an update to the topic - on Rocks Backpages, I found this article from November 2000.

ARTICLE: Ten questions for Ozzy Osbourne
AUTHOR: Sylvie Simmons, Mojo, November 2000
SUMMARY: Mr John Osbourne on running the marathon, talking to horses, and "drinking the occasional beer".

<b>Sylvie:</b> "What made you stop? When you tried to strangle your wife?"

<b>Ozzy: </b>"No, to be honest with you it stopped working. At one time I was a happy guy when I had a few drinks or dope or whatever, and then I just got miserable and depressed. So I thought, What the f*** am I doing this for?

My biggest addiction these days is exercise. I run every day. I'll probably be next to Jimmy Savile next year running the f***ing marathon!

I only take pills now for clinical reasons, not to get stoned any more. All the stuff I did left me with some neurological problems — I'm a manic depressive, a nutter. Sharon says she'll second that."

So I guess the internet site quoted in the original post is wrong - Ozzy has said himself that he is manic depressive, or bipolar.

I kind of figured that. Reading about Ozzy alot of stuff that he does seem like that. So I guess it is the case.

Just thought I would share, S

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I can't seem to see you baby ... although my eyes are open wide ... but I know I'll see you once more ... when I see you, I'll see you on the other side

i didnt bother reading past your fisrt sentences--- its not just me who thinks what i think,,why dont you ask some other ozznoids--- please LEAVE me alone now,,if you cant take advice,dont bother me--have a nice life

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gimpnoid
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"as i said im not putting women down im putting you down for your obvious betrayel to men,, you have stated it in earlier posts" -gimnoid

the only person who has established that take on reality is you gimp. repeating it does not make it fact. it is your opinion, and frankly - with regard to this subject i don't give that any weight. all i can surmise is that antagonism must be being triggered in you for some reason when i'm honest with the pain I've experienced in relation to men. reading that as male bashing says alot about where you probably are in your own journey. have you heard of the 12 steps? [not stairs...the ones that lead to sanity?] are you living as an addict and alcoholic? are you working on your issues (which include mental illness?) do you have domestic violence issues?

i do not have mental illness gimp. i do work on my issues, and have for ten years. i am not finished my journey, but at least i am on one. so if i share how Ozzy helps me with healing - big bloody deal. i'm also touched by Sully Erna and James Hetfield's songs and testimony which reflect recovery. you know, their AA healing / becoming whole (as a woman codependent on addicts) is powerful stuff. reading about and knowing these badass, dynamic, powerful, and sexy men are getting sober and changing their lives rewires my thinking process - and that is a good thing, not a negative dumb@ss.

just do me a favor gimpnoid. don't lay shame on me for my honesty - or try to shut me up by being rude. seriously. get real. the only connection you have to me is that we visit the same website. you are a poster, just like anyone else that visits here.

you have no intelligence,, i never said anything about putting women down ,, im all for equality,, im that old that i supproted the sufforojets when they emerged,,as i said im not putting women down im putting you down for your obvious betrayel to men,, you have stated it in earlier posts,, dont be so vein in your one eyed view of this world ,,if you were any way intelligent , you would know that criminal behavoir comes from a dna build up from family past ,and when estregen levels and testosterrone levels go up or down that will make the person..you havent looked in the mirror and pointed your judgement stick at yourself yet ,obviously,,.. get off your high horse and judge yourself first...you know little if any knowledge....,,i have already judged myself and i see a happy person who has no tolerence for ingrates,, why are you like this,,please explain so i can have a understanding why you are so hatefull...you know im still right the doctor has a cure for what ails you,,you'd be amazed what they can cure these days,,your missing something in your brain,..........and my humour is quite fine ,,your the only one who doesnt get it..lighten up and release that hate and let go, i think ozzy site isnt about hate,,i dont hate you i just think your misguided and a bit lost,,,i have raised my white flag earlier and you obviously didnt see...and earlier why did you flag everybody,,,,,,,,,,,,,,please explain

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gimpnoid
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and, if there is nothing wrong with being criminally insane, then i guess you regularly entertain guests of the ilk of Jeffrey Dahmer for dinner. bring him around the wife and kids, right?

doik!

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I can't seem to see you baby ... although my eyes are open wide ... but I know I'll see you once more ... when I see you, I'll see you on the other side

puhlease. that was unworthy of even taking the time to type, never mind read. you know? we are in 2009, not 1950. you're showing your age gimp. women have taken their place in the world, and speak their minds. why, they're even educated today. can you imagine?

gotcha. maybe a guess - are you one of those men who have so little testosterone that you get frightened of strength (and intelligence) in a woman? and resort to stupidity disguised as humor in posts like this one to try to even the score)?

whatever.

(signing the "L" on my forehead as I look at the screen)

hey theres nothing wrong with being criminally insane,,,just remember australia was built on that.... and the voltage of barb b q is the same if not more, but they put you to sleep first so you dont feel a thing...and just remember if someone is a criminal or has a addictive personality or is like you,,its built up in someones dna ..so generations and generations ,thousands of years ago is where someone should be pointing there judgement stick...and for males that are overly sexually active have an overload of testosterone and women that are overly dominant in the wrong way usually have an overload of estregen,, so theres help for you,,consult your docter ,,they can treat that these days

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

wow, i didn't think they used that (shock) anywhere anymore. i did read that they were using something like that to get people to stop smoking, tho i'm sure it is not the same strength shock. guess it would keep people from pleading insane here in the states if we had that kind of compassion and future outlook to look forward to.

thanks for the clarification lennonsgirl, this was an old article anyways, but i thought it was interesting.

btw, from webMD

"Manic" describes an increasingly restless, energetic, talkative, reckless, powerful, euphoric period. Lavish spending sprees or impulsive risky sex can occur. Then, at some point, this high-flying mood can spiral into something darker -- irritation, confusion, anger, feeling trapped. "Depression" describes the opposite mood -- sadness, crying, sense of worthlessness, loss of energy, loss of pleasure, sleep problems.

Because the pattern of highs and lows varies for each person, bipolar disorder is a complex disease to diagnose. For some people, mania or depression can last for weeks or months, even for years. For other people, bipolar disorder takes the form of frequent and dramatic mood shifts.

[however] It's not always dramatic mood swings. In fact, some people seem to get along just fine. The manic periods can be very, very productive. They think things are going great. ...When a person is sometimes very productive, then becomes unreasonable or irrational, it wreaks more havoc on the family. It seems more like bad behavior, like they won't straighten up."

and shock therapy still exists so does litheum,,in this country if your diagnosed criminally insane you get the barb b q treatment and a nice stay in comfortable padded room under queens pleasure,,wich means when the queen decides to look at your paperwork she might let you out,,and trust me the queen isnt a reader

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

bipolar is a swing shift disease,,one minute your happy as larry and the next your really depressed ,,its a roller coaster ride of emotions

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

I dont know anything about bipolar disorder. But just for the record. Ozzy is off any medication now.

they still dont diagnose properlly,,just rack you up on respirodone or clopixal or other s***,,i had it with there sort of meds and advice,,i just deal with it on a daily basis and i never have been violent to a women,,i do have standards,,although some people might think i dont..i havent been violent in years or have had any suicidal thoughts-- my days of sitting on the couch drooling and tapping my foot are over ,,, f*** medication,, they tyry to keep you down and leave you there,, fuk them fuk there imput into my life,, alcolholism has never been an issue for ,,i seen my dad an older brother,, learn from other peoples mistakes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

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i wondered about this topic because Ozzy says in interviews that when he was a teen he had heard voices or some such thing. NOT because of the "WE HAVE DECIDED" statement in a drug induced psychosis when he attacked Sharon long ago.
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my dad had those issues too gimpnoid, plus alcoholism and prescription drug addiction (to drown out images and mental pain). brought forward or caused, who is to say, by WWII. he was an I^3 genius. a 22 year old in Army duds seeing stuff nobody could see without it warping their mind. unfortunately he couldn't resume life "as normal" afterwards...except for the fact he fathered eight kids after marrying my mom. periodically, he'd wake up (drunk) and grab my mom by the throat thinking he was in the war fighting...then get taken in for "treatment." back in those days they gave shock therapy, quantities of lithium 1000's of times the dosage they know is required today, and surgery. 6'4" to a 5'1" frame, made sense on one level, but so wrong on another. very sad. talk about a lithium shuffle. thank GOD they came to understand and diagnose (properly) PTSD in the 80's.

bi polar is the only thing i havent been diagnosed with,,ha ha ha lucky me,,delusions of grandeur , paranoid , skitzophrenia, disociopath ,, antisocial , asbergers well thats me ha ha ha ha ha ha oh and i have an addictive personality , wich is hard to keep in check,AND ALL THIS MAKES ME A NORMAL PERSON IN SOCIETY

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/