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Dio vs Ozzy

theres no doubt, Dio is a better singer. even to this day, his voice still sounds as strong as it did 30 years ago. of course Ozzy's 'good' voice gave out by the mid 90s...not intending that his voice was bad. Ozzy's unique way of singing from soft to heavy and singing to the same tune of Iommi's riffs put him on a higher level than any other sabbath singer. still, you listen to Children of The Sea, and you can't ignore the fact that Dio was the best choice, not only to fill Oz's shoes, but to replace him.who was the best Sabbath singer?

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I love Ozzy and I love Dio. First of all, Ozzy is my favorite of all time, but Dio is one of my favs. Dio is a better singer, but Ozzy's singing voice is so unique. Ozzy wins as far as impact on music, but Dio wins as far as singing goes.

I love Ozzy and I love Dio. First of all, Ozzy is my favorite of all time, but Dio is one of my favs. Dio is a better singer, but Ozzy's singing voice is so unique. Ozzy wins as far as impact on music, but Dio wins as far as singing goes.

Just watch Black Sabbath Live in Paris 1970 and you'll figure it out. In "Hand Of Doom" from that concert, Ozzy is f***ing unreal! Ozzy era Black Sabbath=Godfathers of Metal!!!!!!!! They influenced awesome bands like EHG, Melvins, Down, Electric Wizard, COC, Crowbar, Soundgarden, .....

ozzy osbourne is the best and he never reached the level of the great ozzy
black sabbath is that he was all by Bienne with but his best success came with ozzy
and are successful because of the glorious voice ozzy

i actually can't compare Dio and Ozzy. they both have unique voices and influenced the music in their own way...they are both special in their own way :)

lol had to laugh @ ozzy is darkness & the comparison to dio & a cat. hit the nail on the head. OZZY RULES the black sabbath era hands down. after him they sound soft & poppy, lame not dark & black like original sabbath. but obviously SOMEBODY liked it.

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luv OZZY! /; > LUV him

i back ozzy all the way coz dio sounds like some killing a f***ing cat and if you cant hear that get your f***ing ears checked

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Rock on. ozzy your music will never die

Your are right by technicalities. Each has/had their respective qualities. RJD was brought in by Tony to give Sabbath a new direction! HIS! Yes Ozzy has had his problems, especially at the time Tony did his worst.

However, there begins a ginormous difference. Sharon kicked Ozzy A rse, to become the true Super STAR that he became. AND YES The Osbournes may have made money, BUT perhaps he should not have done it.

So HOW succesfully were Black Sabbath after Ozzy?

Did they sell more Albums than Ozzy?

Did they fill the same size or bigger vebnues than Ozzy?

Who made more money? That one is simple OZZY, just watch Black Sabbath - The Last Supper Video/DVD!

DID Ozzy dislike RJD./Tony? Another simple to answer. YES at the time and for some time after, BUT I think that Ozzy Mellowed. At least Black Sabbath reformed ....... a while anyway!

Long Live Rock and Roll

I personally do not like Thrash, Death, and all that sort of stuff BUT each to their own. There is a market, and these bands survive. Such is life!

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Number 1

Quality over quantity my friend, quality over quantity

Ozzy FTW !!! Guys Ozzy of course is the best , he has a exellent voice but and Dio too . I have the Best of Black Sabbath and Dio's songs are only 5 of 32 of all alboum and all the other songs are by Ozzy . Ozzy is BETTER 100%100.Black Sabbath & Led Zeppelin are my favourite bands .( Ozzy > Dio )
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~Will never forget you Dio <3 and never forget your perfect voice that is one of the best metal voices :(

R.I.P

Ozzy FTW !!! Guys Ozzy of course is the best , he has a exellent voice but and Dio too . I have the Best of Black Sabbath and Dio's songs are only 5 of 32 of all alboum and all the other songs are by Ozzy . Ozzy is BETTER 100%100.Black Sabbath & Led Zeppelin are my favourite bands .( Ozzy > Dio )
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~Will never forget you Dio <3 and never forget your perfect voice that is one of the best metal voices :(

R.I.P

im really not that keen on them--aswell

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

I don't need to tell you that I don't like Guns n roses...

hey kala its the new guns n roses album---

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

What's that?

hey you to ozznoids--ive listened to chinese democracy and its not my cup of tea either--thought id chime in on this---it has merit though--im not bagging it--

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

I have only heard a couple of tracks on toxik tunes radio, it wasn't my speed of course, but to each his own, lol!

As for new metal, have you heard the new lamb of god yet, its pretty mean my friend, pretty damn mean!

Scape \m/

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Peace

Scape

<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
</cite>Are you fookin with me bro, now you have to know I hate that lil prick Axl! lol

Hey Scape..what's new with you?? I've been checking in here every so often
One question I must ask you...what did you think of Chinese Democracy? It f***in blew my mind!! If you haven;t heard it get to Best Buy immediately haha

go the ozznoids

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

The ozznoids of course... But I confess that I do love the album

hey kala wich mob--the album or the oznoids

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

Finally... THE MOB RULES

well sabbath had to go on,but for me i only got ozzy sabbath in my collection--yeah yeah i know im being narrow minded but ,im me and im a gimp--but i like dio in dio-no probs their---so peeps who like all sabbath,,please dont hammer me on this

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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/

Imagine if they could rock out together - and even harmonize - that would be tha s*** - I don't like to compare vocalists - cuz they both do their thing - I used to say I hated Dio when I was 12 - and then I was listening to it in a friend's car at like 14 - and started cryin - cuz I said i hated him for no reason other than I love Ozzy - after that - I appreciated Dio more and realized he was a good addition to Sabbath.
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I met ozzy in March of 1984, back stage at a concert that I won a writing contest to get on stage with him when I waz 14. I waz speechless - something very unusual 4 me!
google me!

Hey Doom, what be up??? Long time no see my brother! \m/
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Peace

Scape

<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
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I've come to change my mind. Ozzy = Dio. Maybe it's the upcoming Sabbath album!!

I hear that, no one hears or see things exactly the same, thank god!

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Peace

Scape

<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
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The darkest
Ozzy was the best choice....though Dio has a strong and perfect voice (Dio really is a great rocker)...but Ozz's voice is closer to me...but an answer to the question is individual and depends on personal prefernces...the question like that of what Sabbath singer was the best one objectively is incorrect.....there are no any facts...there are personal predilections....Music is not science...'s art....
2 Rino They are Ozz's personal decisions whom to invite for his birthday whom not to....Song with Busta Rhymes was a single project of Ozzy with Busta (actually I like this song....)...And all these facts don't f***ing say anything about professional and artistic abilities of Ozz as a rock-singer....man....

I fail to see where anything I stated throughout the thread would have insulted Ozzy, or hurt his feelings. Most of what I spoke of is firmly taken from reality, something some people choose not to admit, or look at fairly. Of course Ozzy is the man, he is why I went down the rabbit hole and never looked back.

Ozzy is the master, period!
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Peace

Scape

<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
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No one hurts Ozzy, we all love him, but we are honest: Dio has a great voice and his music is wonderful ! even Ozzy knows that!

<strong>Boy,

Some People are so Critical, Eh?

Ozzy has Feelings like anyone & some of these Posts are Aimed Directly Towards Hurting them....

Who Cares?

I Mean Really, Who Cares?

I don't Even Care....

I just Do Whatever is Happening & that Doesn't Include Pleasing up the Past....

Sincerely,

Dave

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A ROCK GOD .Does a Rock God sing with Busta Rhymes or Jessica Simpson or invite he for his birthday Justin Timberlake where was Iommi Geezer Ward, there was not a real rocker to be seen.
Think before you wright something.

ozzy for world leader

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gimpnoid

They have really different voices, Dio has a really good voice but some other singers have almost the same (Marco from Nightwish by example) but Oz's is unique. Oz rocks !!! :)
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too right kala--------but ozzy is the man,,hey imagine if ozzy sung with judas

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gimpnoid

I hate this question! I can't compare BS with Ozzy and with Dio because sound like two different bands to me

yep ozzy's the man

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gimpnoid

<strong>This,

is Extremely Stupid. Ozzy is The Man! No Questions Asked......

I Never, Ever Would have Liked Black Sabbath so Much without Oz & they Are My All Time Favorite Rock n Roll Band in the Entire Universe, so.....

Meh!

Sincerely,

Dave

P.S. I Can Has CheezBurger! Lol! Cat!

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Gillan 2 singer Deep Purple
Dickinson 2 singer Iron Maiden
Dio 2 singer Black Sabbath
And now you fools know it, need i say more

He is one to see live

I am, and always will be an Ozzy fan first & foremost!

I enjoyed Dio after Ozzy was fired, let go, but it was never the same vibe, at least not for me anyway. When Dio joined Sabbath the whole sound of the band changed, & it wasn’t just the vocals mind you, Iommi had evolved in his guitar playing, and he managed to even get heavier than what he had thrown at Ozzy in years past when they were still working together. Now that by no way means that what Iommi had done before wasn’t heavy as all s***, but due to better equipment, and much better recording studios, added with the fresh vocal styles of Dio, well heaven and hell was one mean ass album for back in its day, and some of it manages to live up very well to today’s standards, or so I believe.

The thing with Dio, whether it’s with Rainbow, Sabbath, or especially solo, the lyrics for me can get a bit wee bit to cheesy, and as time has gone by, some of the lyrics are just way to beyond f***in corny for me to handle, or to take seriously. The whole in the dark of the dark, and the night of the night s***, drives me absolutely crazy, in fact I almost hate it. I love Dio’s career in a nostalgic sense these days, it makes me smile when I hear it, but I don’t go out of my way to listen to any of it anymore. In other words my peeps I don’t own very much, if any Dio these days. As for Ozzy I own it all, or at least a majority of what he has done.

As for Ozzy getting cheesy with some of his lyrics, well he has went and done so in the later days of his career, or so I tend to think. But as for the Sabbath library with Ozzy, it still holds up as well today, no better today than it did when it was all new, and fresh. Sabbath during the Ozzy years is almost untouchable, it has everything you need to go by to build a band of your own, so in other words Sabbath wrote the blueprint for how real heavy music should be made. As for Dio being credited with that, I personally don’t think so. I agree Dio was a huge persona back in the day, but he didn’t pioneer s***, nor did he do anything all that original. As with Ozzy and the boys of Sabbath, they set the standard, & paved the way for all the metal bands that came after. So take a look at heavy music/metal, and ask yourself how many Dio clones your going to find, as in comparson to how many Ozzy clones you will undoubtedly find.

As for Dio’s voice holding up with age, the answer is yes of course it has, now does it change anything for me other than Ozzy’s shows being a little sad to see these days, the answer is no!

Ozzy’s is still the man and that will never change in my eyes. Ozzy’s music is superior to most that have attempted to mimic it, or try their hand at it. Ozzy and the boys of Sabbath are not just another metal band, they are thee metal band of all f***in time, the alpha & the omega! So in my book, even as cool as Dio was an all back in the day, its my humble opinion that Dio was just another one of many that rode on the Black Sabbath coat tail, as are many of the newer bands guilty of doing to this very day!

Just my 2 cents worth!

Peace all!

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<cite>"Being sober on a bus is, like, totally different than being drunk on a bus."</cite> - <strong>Ozzy Osbourne</strong>

Woah...that was a lot. My bad..I was picking up on anger, but you've proven me wrong!

I only have time to respond to two of your comments that I feel most important:

<strong>Scapegoat said:</strong><cite> Now my point is this, how is it that Ozzy should be viewed any differently, why should his accomplishments be any less in anyone’s eyes? They shouldn’t, Ozzy has not only a unique voice, but an incredible amount of charisma, & stage presence more so than any front man dead, or alive. It just makes my ass tired that people throw that out there as if it has any real significance with him being a great vocalist/singer, like his vocals aren’t enough to make him the rock god he is today, that he must lack talent, or is inferior to those that do write their own material.</cite>

I didn't mean to imply that just because Ozzy wasn't the lyricist, it would take away from him overall as an artist, nor would I ever think that. Earlier, I was merely pointing out how you compared Dio's lyrics to Ozzy's lyrics, when clearly, Geezer was the lyricist. And it had nothing to do with saying that Ozzy had less talent cause he wasn't a writer. But of course, Ozzy has written his share throughout his career.

<strong>Scapegoat said:</strong><cite> If you love them both equally, well that’s great for you, you've lost absolutely nothing, but you’re a minority as you might suspect, most prefer Osbourne as opposed to Dio, and that’s just an actual fact.</cite>

I agree. Unlike you, I didn't get to live those early years. At first, I was into Ozzy, and when I found the link between him and Black Sabbath, jesus f***..it blew my mind. So, I was a fan of solo Ozzy and Sabbath Ozzy. And because I was into his solo stuff longer, when I found out there were other singers after he left Sabbath, I just dismissed them for years because I was loyal to Ozzy. Out of curiosity, I just kept playing the Dio era to see how he was, even though I had heard it before. Suddenly I became addicted, not only to his vocals, but I had a better appreciation for Tony and the band as well. I find that as each year passes, Dio's fan base grows, escpecially with the recent Heaven and Hell tour and more people are becoming aware of not only Ozzy, but Dio too. Just my opinion...

Honestly, I don't like Tony Martin as a singer for Sabbath, just like you and Dio. But I do listen to his era often, mostly because of Tony Iommi. Personally, I could care less how terrible a singer is (to an extent), but I listen to the band as a whole because original members are still in the band, of which I am a fan. Oops, didn't mean Martin is a bad singer, just not right for the Sabs.

If you're wondering who I prefer, no doubt it's Ozzy, but Ronnie James Dio comes up right behind his ass.

Sorry for my lack of response...I'm pretty tired right now, plus my brain isn't swimming with that many thoughts. I do know what you're saying throughout, and you have maybe changed my perspective on things, but not entirely.

And here's an off topic question. Have you seen Ozzy yet for this tour? If you have, how was he? If you haven't, I'll tell you next month when I see him!! hahah

Well, I'm out. Good night for now and if I'm not here tomorrow, Merry Christmas.

yeah gotta admit, I did like "live evil"
Dio is good, very f***in good, but still he ain't no Ozzy
Can't beat the Ozzman

f*** he's an ugly little c*** too, looks like he came from the a**hole of hell itself
Poor little basturd. lmfao lol

Rock on

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Old rockers come and go, but not Oldman Double O

Thanks onmysix, thank you!

Happy my comments on "The Dio" made ya laugh, happy you understood I meant it in the best of terms. I love those old Dio albums, solo as well as when he did his Sabbath spell; he is positively one of our most cherished metal gods, just a peg or two right below our beloved Ozzman!

Or so I think anyway!

Never have seen "The Dio" live doom, I would love to, I think I will have to make that a priority in the up coming year or so.

Peace

Scape

<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
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When I need a crunchy and groovy tune, the Ozzy era has it no doubt. I usually seek it out when I'm stoned.
When I feel like singing (in some cases screaming) I go for the Dio-era and Born Again.
And for killer metal from a very tight, top notch band in every aspect, its the Martin, Hughes, and Ray Gillen stuff that'll get me going.

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Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)

<strong>Halfex said:</strong><cite> I didn't mean to imply that just because Ozzy wasn't the lyricist, it would take away from him overall as an artist, nor would I ever think that. .</cite>

I realize that you personally never really made that assumption/statement, but all to often people will manage to mention that trivial fact as if it is somehow a discredit to Ozzy, and many times in the past when it has been brought up, well it inadvertently only manages to come off as kind of a backhanded compliment. To me unless mentioning that fact has any real bearing on the conversation at hand, or is a vital part of the thread, then why even mention it in the first place??? I feel at times it is indeed justified, but at other times, well its just unnecessary if you ask me.

<strong>Halfex said:</strong><cite> I agree. Unlike you, I didn't get to live those early years. At first, I was into Ozzy, and when I found the link between him and Black Sabbath, jesus f***..it blew my mind. Ect, ect...........</cite>

<cite>Honestly, I don't like Tony Martin as a singer for Sabbath, just like you and Dio. But I do listen to his era often, mostly because of Tony Iommi. Personally, I could care less how terrible a singer is (to an extent), but I listen to the band as a whole because original members are still in the band, of which I am a fan. Oops, didn't mean Martin is a bad singer, just not right for the Sabs.</cite>

I understand your position with how, and in what chronicle order you discovered Ozzy’s music playing a factor into what you think of the later incarnations of Black Sabbath. For me I discovered Ozzy while he was still with Sabbath, and sadly not to long after I had discovered him, and the whole Sabbath thing, he was fired/replaced with Dio. And like I said I bought those albums with Dio, and I was happy with them in the sense that the band was carrying on, but when Dio bailed, I jumped ship for good. OzzyJohn has mentioned many times that I should go back and give Tony Martin another whirl, which I did here awhile back, but as usual as soon as the vocals start I just crumble, and as always it comes down to the fact that I just cant handle it enough to look past it, and within a few short choruses I find myself shutting it completely off. Maybe if you could subtract the vocals entirely I could sit through the great guitar work an all, in fact I am sure I would enjoy the music portion of those songs, but the vocals are way to 80’s out for me, cheesy, and juvenile for me in the end. Sorry OzzyJohn, but you’re a better man than me when it comes to doing all that s***, lmao….

For me its strange when it comes to vocals, there are artists that I listen to & love that most people would pass on because of the whole growling thing, as for me I enjoy it, of course when it really works in conjunction to what the band is doing. But if a band is going to have a traditional vocalist, well then they really have to offer something, either new, or unique in order for me to tune completely in. And I am not saying perfect, just that it has character, and stands out among the competition that’s out there. A vocalist doesn’t have to be perfect in the sense that they can sing any jondra, or any style, just that it has character, and sincerity, for example Les Claypool doesn’t have the ideal vocal sound, and his music is as silly as hell, but it works within the perimeters of his band, and even though it seems light hearted lyrically at times, very often there is a heavier message to be found within. As to some of the old school vocals like, Tony Martin, Dio, or an Axl Rose, that style of vocals has become dated to me, and is now being proven true with the fact that the younger generation is now mimicking it, and finding it cool. As my parents said, about every couple of generations things tend to make a full circle. Since I hated most metal music in the 80’s, this happening with the new generation of bands is not a real pleasurable occurrence for me, and one that I pray will be short to endure lol! So when you say that Dio’s fan base is growing, it is my belief this may be partly the reason as to why.

As to your question of my seeing Ozzy on this latest tour, well I have not seen Ozzy since Ozzfest here in St. Louis, and as for seeing the new tour with Zombie, well it isn't coming. If I want to catch one of those shows the closest venue for me is almost 4 hours away, talk about a complete bummer, trust me it is!!

And ya let me know how my boy sounds, looks, always curious about all that.

I really miss the old fart, I wish that club show was coming here, considering I pitched a fit, asked for this very thing to happen, posted a request for it in the ozzfest portion of the forums as far back as June, titled "Dear Ozzy please read". Now I get a club tour, but it’s a hella trip for me to make in order to do so, it seems I just can’t win! lmao!

PS" Have any of you heard the band Killswitch Engage version of Dio’s "Holy Diver"???? Not to shabby, but I think I prefer the original version,of course!

Throwing my devil horns into the air \m/

Peace

Scape

oh my god onmysix! hahahhah!
"looks like he came from the a**hole of hell itself."
that was good! im like pissing my pants laughing!!
lmfao! hahahhhh!!

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The more I see, The less I know.
The more I like to let it go.
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I prefur Ozzys vocie!
100%.. Theres just something magic in his voice..
It makes me smile and cry..
But I do love Rainbow very much!
Dio is a good singer!! xo

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I WANT OZZY, ZAKKY AND MIKEY... hehe.. xo

See now for me when I go to sing, if I want melody and range I do an Ozzy tune, and when I want to scream I do old AC/DC with Bon Scott, or maybe a little Nazareth, yup that gets the old pipes ah goin!

lol

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<cite>"Being sober on a bus is, like, totally different than being drunk on a bus."</cite> - <strong>Ozzy Osbourne</strong>

I dig...

"If I want to catch one of those shows the closest venue for me is almost 4 hours away, talk about a complete bummer, trust me it is!!"

Yea, it is a bummer. I have to travel 5 hours by bus, plus the costs of the floor tickets and the Ozzfan membership. It cost a s*** load but it's worth it.

No I'm not familiar with Killswitch Engage. And if I think I remember them correctly, I think they suck?? lol. Still, I've gotta hear that song.