Dio vs Ozzy
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Tuesday, February 8, 2011 - 20:57
Just watch Black Sabbath Live in Paris 1970 and you'll figure it out. In "Hand Of Doom" from that concert, Ozzy is f***ing unreal! Ozzy era Black Sabbath=Godfathers of Metal!!!!!!!! They influenced awesome bands like EHG, Melvins, Down, Electric Wizard, COC, Crowbar, Soundgarden, .....
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 14:18
lol had to laugh @ ozzy is darkness & the comparison to dio & a cat. hit the nail on the head. OZZY RULES the black sabbath era hands down. after him they sound soft & poppy, lame not dark & black like original sabbath. but obviously SOMEBODY liked it.
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Monday, May 24, 2010 - 12:16
Your are right by technicalities. Each has/had their respective qualities. RJD was brought in by Tony to give Sabbath a new direction! HIS! Yes Ozzy has had his problems, especially at the time Tony did his worst.
However, there begins a ginormous difference. Sharon kicked Ozzy A rse, to become the true Super STAR that he became. AND YES The Osbournes may have made money, BUT perhaps he should not have done it.
So HOW succesfully were Black Sabbath after Ozzy?
Did they sell more Albums than Ozzy?
Did they fill the same size or bigger vebnues than Ozzy?
Who made more money? That one is simple OZZY, just watch Black Sabbath - The Last Supper Video/DVD!
DID Ozzy dislike RJD./Tony? Another simple to answer. YES at the time and for some time after, BUT I think that Ozzy Mellowed. At least Black Sabbath reformed ....... a while anyway!
Long Live Rock and Roll
I personally do not like Thrash, Death, and all that sort of stuff BUT each to their own. There is a market, and these bands survive. Such is life!
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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 06:29
Ozzy FTW !!! Guys Ozzy of course is the best , he has a exellent voice but and Dio too . I have the Best of Black Sabbath and Dio's songs are only 5 of 32 of all alboum and all the other songs are by Ozzy . Ozzy is BETTER 100%100.Black Sabbath & Led Zeppelin are my favourite bands .( Ozzy > Dio )
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~Will never forget you Dio <3 and never forget your perfect voice that is one of the best metal voices :(
R.I.P
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 06:29
Ozzy FTW !!! Guys Ozzy of course is the best , he has a exellent voice but and Dio too . I have the Best of Black Sabbath and Dio's songs are only 5 of 32 of all alboum and all the other songs are by Ozzy . Ozzy is BETTER 100%100.Black Sabbath & Led Zeppelin are my favourite bands .( Ozzy > Dio )
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~Will never forget you Dio <3 and never forget your perfect voice that is one of the best metal voices :(
R.I.P
Saturday, February 7, 2009 - 14:26
I have only heard a couple of tracks on toxik tunes radio, it wasn't my speed of course, but to each his own, lol!
As for new metal, have you heard the new lamb of god yet, its pretty mean my friend, pretty damn mean!
Scape \m/
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Peace
Scape
Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
Are you fookin with me bro, now you have to know I hate that lil prick Axl! lol
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 - 02:47
well sabbath had to go on,but for me i only got ozzy sabbath in my collection--yeah yeah i know im being narrow minded but ,im me and im a gimp--but i like dio in dio-no probs their---so peeps who like all sabbath,,please dont hammer me on this
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gimpnoid
http://www.metalofoz.com/
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 - 02:22
Imagine if they could rock out together - and even harmonize - that would be tha s*** - I don't like to compare vocalists - cuz they both do their thing - I used to say I hated Dio when I was 12 - and then I was listening to it in a friend's car at like 14 - and started cryin - cuz I said i hated him for no reason other than I love Ozzy - after that - I appreciated Dio more and realized he was a good addition to Sabbath.
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I met ozzy in March of 1984, back stage at a concert that I won a writing contest to get on stage with him when I waz 14. I waz speechless - something very unusual 4 me!
google me!
Monday, January 26, 2009 - 17:15
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The darkest
Ozzy was the best choice....though Dio has a strong and perfect voice (Dio really is a great rocker)...but Ozz's voice is closer to me...but an answer to the question is individual and depends on personal prefernces...the question like that of what Sabbath singer was the best one objectively is incorrect.....there are no any facts...there are personal predilections....Music is not science...'s art....
2 Rino They are Ozz's personal decisions whom to invite for his birthday whom not to....Song with Busta Rhymes was a single project of Ozzy with Busta (actually I like this song....)...And all these facts don't f***ing say anything about professional and artistic abilities of Ozz as a rock-singer....man....
Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 19:01
I fail to see where anything I stated throughout the thread would have insulted Ozzy, or hurt his feelings. Most of what I spoke of is firmly taken from reality, something some people choose not to admit, or look at fairly. Of course Ozzy is the man, he is why I went down the rabbit hole and never looked back.
Ozzy is the master, period!
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Peace
Scape
Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
Friday, January 16, 2009 - 20:15
Boy,
Some People are so Critical, Eh?
Ozzy has Feelings like anyone & some of these Posts are Aimed Directly Towards Hurting them....
Who Cares?
I Mean Really, Who Cares?
I don't Even Care....
I just Do Whatever is Happening & that Doesn't Include Pleasing up the Past....
Sincerely,
Dave
Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 21:36
This,
is Extremely Stupid. Ozzy is The Man! No Questions Asked......
I Never, Ever Would have Liked Black Sabbath so Much without Oz & they Are My All Time Favorite Rock n Roll Band in the Entire Universe, so.....
Meh!
Sincerely,
Dave
P.S. I Can Has CheezBurger! Lol! Cat!
Friday, December 21, 2007 - 17:20
the three main singers...
Ozzy - uniquness is kind of vague...he did have the ability to sing from soft to heavy (ie Solitude to Symptom of the Universe) and his voice tone is different on each album. which gives him more to offer than any other singer...that and his static stage performances. what always puts him on a higher level than the others is that he was the original singer and his ability to suite his voice towards the music
Dio - Dio was in Rainbow before he joined, so he was well known and most likely brought his fans with him. no other singer could have pulled off what he did when he joined Sabbath and it just goes to show with Heaven and Hells first track Neon Knights, which grabs your attention and holds you in place until the album is over. in my opinion, his voice was the best that Sabbath ever had, but that doesnt make him my favourite. maybe if Dio recorded more with Sabbath, he would have had more albums or songs to go wrong with like the Oz eras last two albums..or maybe not.
Tony Martin - underrated, no doubt....i think mainly because nobody knew who he was. technically, he may be a good singer, but i dont think he was right for Sabbath. you said he has versatility...to me, he sounds more like Dio if anything, and his performances of the Oz era material is just painful to listen to (same for Dio)
Thursday, March 6, 2008 - 16:06
Same here I love the Dio, in fact I was just watching some interviews with him a few days ago about his days with Sabbath, and his first solo album, I respect him, admire him, only thing is I don't put him on the same pedestal as Ozzy, never have, never will, sorry just how I personally feel, but to each his own guys, to each his own.
And as for the devil horns thing, not that I don't give credit to the Dio, but Gene Simmons did that thing way back in the 70's, or at least a variation of it anyway, maybe even before Dio did it I believe, I mean I am not sure on that 100%, considering Dio was in Elf as far back as 1967, so if Ronnie was doing the devil thing even then, then he is the originator of that little signature move with the devil horns, if not then perhaps Gene was, if anyone has any further info I am curious to know who had their hand at it first, no pun intended, let me know??????????
Later!
Scape
Ozzy:"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 15:02
where...hailfax replied: He did go further in his career, with the Sabs.
I am talking about from the beginning of his career obviously, all the way up to present day. Dio is recognized, but I would hope you’re aware enough of the fact that he is no Osbourne. I think his being in Sabbath kind of f***ed up the longevity of his career, his being taken as seriously as he should have been. Dio, like a lot of bands of yester year have been left behind in a sense, metal matured, it grew and has evolved. Guys like Dio have been dropped by the wayside for artists like Tool, Pantera, or a present day Lamb of God. Dio is an old flame from the past, and I am sure record sales reflect that fact, I’m sorry but I find it hard to buy that Dio has managed to outsell any of these mentioned artists in the last few years he has tried to stay a figure in today’s metal scene. I love Dio, I do admire him, but I am not naive in my view of the modern metal scene, do you understand?
As for living in the past, well that’s kind of funny, and as for my age playing a factor as to how I recall things, sure it plays a small part in it all, but in my defense I have read many interviews throughout my lifetime, and I also exercise my own personal judgment on the information I have acquired. There have been many times I have heard Ozzy blow s*** off, and thought just that, he’s talking out of his ass again, and that’s the thing you have to keep in mind, we all talk s*** from time to time. If you choose to believe all that you hear from any one of these artists as the absolute gospel on how things went, then my advice is you shouldn’t allow yourself to be that gullible, because you can’t always stock in what you hear, or read, no matter who the author may be. I am not asking you to pick sides, I am saying think for yourself, weigh the information out and come to your own conclusions on things, with that being done obviously opinions and views will differ, because neither of us were there first hand, who knows what things may have occurred during the turbulent years of Black Sabbath, all those facts we may never truly know for sure.
Continued.............
Thursday, March 6, 2008 - 16:21
Dio can be one of the greatest singers of all time and of course his voice is the same 30 years ago. But he is not the fu++ing princ of darkness that OZZY was during the 80s, 90s, and present day. The ozzman can pull you out the insanity within any time with his songs any time he wants. Dio rocks but Ozzy rules!
PS: OZZY Argentina is waiting for you. Trust me...there is nothing like an argentinian fuc++ng wild public!
Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 14:47
Dio a better singer?....LMFAO!!! dude, you cannot compare ozzy to dio.. i stopped listening to Sabbath after ozzy left because of dio. have you ever heard dio sing paranoid? it's f***ing hysterical... DIo is not the (self proclaimed) "king of rock and roll." i totally disagree with you on this issue...there is no comparison.
Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 15:03
where...hailfax replied: Yea, Iommi did call the shots, ect ect…..
Look I am sure that Iommi may have done things differently with Dio, but I don’t think Ozzy and Iommi’s past relationship played all that big of a part in how Iommi choose to play guitar. As for Dio loving lots of guitars, well that’s great, but the same can be as easily said of Osbourne. Ozzy while with Sabbath did not hog the songs and fill them entirely with vocals, per beat, per measure of music; in fact old Sabbath is filled with astounding guitar solos, and riffs, minus any vocals for large periods of time throughout the song. And as for Ozzy solo, he has had some of the most world famous guitarist play for him, and all of them got to show their stuff, so I think its safe to say Ozzy is not as insecure enough as to bully, or mandate how much guitar time, solo time any given guitar play may have, or not have on his albums. Once again am just confused as all hell on this even being a real issue for Iommi, just confused by that statement in general.
Scapegoat said: but if Ozzy is/was so incapable of writing lyrics, or contributing with a co-writer.
where...hailfax replied: Nobody said that.
Look it is brought up here, time & time again that Ozzy has either allowed a fellow band member, or collaborated with another member on the lyrics for his songs. So I was responding to OzzyJohn on that comment. And here is what I am getting at, and maybe it will slow down so many people throwing that fact out there as if it has any real merit. I think it’s safe to say Elvis Presley was the king of rock-n-roll, that his career was incredible, and that his celebrity status goes beyond any that were doing it in his day, all the way up to present day, he is beyond legend. So with that said its no secret that Elvis wrote very few of his own actual songs, most of his library of music was written by someone else or he did covers. Now my point is this, how is it that Ozzy should be viewed any differently, why should his accomplishments be any less in anyone’s eyes? They shouldn’t, Ozzy has not only a unique voice, but an incredible amount of charisma, & stage presence more so than any front man dead, or alive. It just makes my ass tired that people throw that out there as if it has any real significance with him being a great vocalist/singer, like his vocals aren’t enough to make him the rock god he is today, that he must lack talent, or is inferior to those that do write their own material. So if you don’t look at him as any less for having out side help, or co-writers, then why the f*** is it even brought up? This also confuses the s*** right out of me, am I alone???
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Thursday, March 6, 2008 - 16:25
Gene credits himself from one album cover though. Ever see him use it at a concert during that time? Further more his explanation of why he uses it is of the way he holds his pick:
http://www.spectorbass.com/images/artists/GeneSimmonsBlue_lrg.jpg
don't look that way to me :)
Dio gives his history about where he first saw (his Italian grandma) it and why he began to use it everywhere, that being because Ozzy always gave the peace sign and he wanted to do something different from that. From the logic of both these gentlemen I gotta give it to Dio.
But SG, why would you put anything on a pedestal? Didn't you see 40 year old Virgin? Nothing should be placed there...LMAO...
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Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)
Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 10:49
It is pretty impossible to compare the vocalists that have been in Sabbath, just listen on the tracks of the albums, yet i have not found any tracks that i dont like and i have been hearing these songs since i born. But my personal opinion is that Tony Martin was the best and my favorite singer in Black Sabbath, I just have to look at the Eternal Idol album and it feels that i have been eating ecstasy all of my life... try that :)
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theres no doubt, Dio is a better singer. even to this day, his voice still sounds as strong as it did 30 years ago. of course Ozzy's 'good' voice gave out by the mid 90s...not intending that his voice was bad. Ozzy's unique way of singing from soft to heavy and singing to the same tune of Iommi's riffs put him on a higher level than any other sabbath singer. still, you listen to Children of The Sea, and you can't ignore the fact that Dio was the best choice, not only to fill Oz's shoes, but to replace him.who was the best Sabbath singer?