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If the Ozzman Got Vocal Lessons, Thus Becoming an Aw...

Anybody who can speak can benefit greatly from vocal lessons from a great teacher; even those who cannot sing well can become awesome vocalists. With that said, how would you feel if the Ozzman were to hire an awesome coach to turn him into an amazing rock vocalist?

I love Ozzy; he is an extremely gifted showman; and this is in no way intended to be an insult towards him. The guy has been through so much more crap than any other musical artist, and this undoubtedly accounts for his slurred speech, "unique" behavior, and increasing vocal difficulties. And yet, we still love him. Now ... if he did opt for lessons ... what do you think? Ozzy has already expressed worries over his decreased vocal range, and he was never an extremely powerful singer to begin with

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The problem with him is not that he has followed a school for getting such an awesome voice, but his problem is that he's a drug addict for many years and I don't know for how long he's going to stay like that. His life can be aggravated in a short period of time. He should really follow the <a rel="follow" href="http://family-drug-intervention.net/">Narconon Vistabay</a> treatment because I know he doesn't have time for rehab centers and cure. This treatment is easy to get from an online website and it cured alcohol addiction and drug addiction too.

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<strong>...let the madness continue..."</strong>

here here. when you age your vocal chords change. fact of life. despite that Ozzy has a wonderful range that he can and does sing in. it's just a few of his older songs that 98% come out fine but one or two notes you can hear the strain.

so F$#CKING what. i love hearing them, and think prolly he's more self-conscious about those moments then he need be. and his critics (who love to roast his ass alive as they have for 40+ years) jump all over that like the remaining 98% of the time (100% when he's singing his new stuff) his voice is in phenomenal form.

$h!t, Ozzy is such a joy in the music industry today compared to the lack of variety largely being offered. only a few bands are making a distinctive sound their trademark. Ozzy always has.

I am SO EXCITED TO HEAR HIS NEW STUFF- ALREADY!!!!

Cacala, I am not sure wether to like or dislike what you wrote. With any luck, it is very interesting! HOWEVER, PLEASE try and write in English, so that most of us can understand you.

Ozzy DID have a powerful voice int he early days, BUT then developed vocal problems every now and then. This was probably due to SMOKING, and the combination of drink and DRUGS, and the general Rock and Rol Life Style.

Hopefully, now that OZZY is clean, things will pick up, and for ALL we know, he may well have had some vocal guidance. SO let the madness continue

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For me there's absolutely no doubt about Ozzy's great and powerful voice. He's also great intonation and technique. For me is one of the greatest in Rock also beating singers in many other genres. He also kicks **s with his band style and sound.

On the other hand being famous for many years does not make an "artist" a good artist, just famous while music business has been manipulated by people that not necessarily seek real musical talent but sales while that is not necessarily the most important indicator.

Anyway, everybody can use a little help, further practice and education... even Ozzy. But again, he's great just as he is.

BRILLIANT SHOWMAN, and even OZZY accepts that he does not have the greatest of voices, but has any copy cat acts trying to emulate him, and ot even making the mark. Rock on OZZY

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ozzy dont need vocal lessons! he has amazing voice and very skilled! he just have to be what he really is...

And if he got lessons, he'd improve. What does it matter if I like musical theatre? He's not a great vocalist, and all I'm saying is that with lessons, he could improve and be a lot closer to Dio or Bon Jovi or an artist like them; and as a singer, performing while sick like he was really threatens the vocal chords ... forcing higher notes without proper training is what causes polyps and why many older rock artists have surgery. He's already expressed concern, but if he's too stubborn to hire a good vocal coach, that's his perogotive.

That's all ... don't make this into more than it is, and me into something that I'm not.

Maybe Ozzy already hired a vocal coach, or maybe not, but I'm sure an issue like that has already come up with him. There are probably reasons for what he's doing so just let it be.

LMFAO @ rational, you are so right on with that one.

The only comments I will make are to the ones that I find worthy in my even answering to, as to not become repetitive here with this thread.

<strong>F</strong>irst thing first, I have to, I mean I really, really have to respond to questioning is Ozzy's voice not being strong, "ever"???

I have to say, ding ding, your wrong on that one. Ozzy's singing voice was incredibly strong, how is it you think it survived through all those years of drug abuse, when some singers didn't get away with half of what Osbourne has done, in other words Ozzy's voice has always been a strong one, that is up until the later years of his career, and its no secret as to why, its age, the years of drug abuse, and smoking that has finally caught up to him, ironically he has lasted longer than even I had suspected he might, Ozzy is one tough f***er if you ask me.

All you need do is go back and watch the dvd concert of Ozzy with Brad Gillis during the recording sessions that would later become speak of the devil, I mean damn man he sounds f***in phenomenal, no flat, or cracking notes to be found anywhere. Look folks its not like there isn't a recorded documentation of Ozzy's singing career here, all one needs to do is go back and take a quick listening to!

Ozzy was always awesome, how else do you think he got to where he is today, by being a mediocre singer? Come on lessons or no lessons Ozzy always delivered the goods people, as for his voice growing, changing from the early years into his solo career, yes it changed, and in my opinion it got substantially stronger, as well as him having far more control over his range, and vocal projection. I mean its almost impossible to rival, so its safe to say Ozzy's voice was always a "strong" contender people.

<strong>S</strong>econd response is this, why are some people even flipping the f*** out about the suggestion, note a "SUGGESTION HERE PEOPLE" of Ozzy having a coach or not. And I am with the idea that Ozzy has had some amount of training in his past, to think he hasn't had any only shows you to be all so, so naive.

So I am down with what ever Ozzy has, or hasn't done with vocal training, as I said once, and I will say it again, I will be there the next time the house lights go down!

<strong> Ozzy rules! \m/</strong>

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<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
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Look fireball what don't you get, yeah sure if your unwell rest, but as for the whole vocal lessons s***, Ozzy Osborne is Ozzy Osborne let him be. I like the imperfections, thats one of the many things that make him unique ( ie his voice)
The" Black Rain" album is one of his best and his voice sound f***ing excellent and unique. If you hear Ozzy Osbourne singing you know it Ozzy Osbourne there's no other voice like it. Bottom line is he doesn't need to IMPROVE (your words) he perfect the way he is. As for bon jovi and Dio they are good muso's in there own right I love Dio, but they ain't Ozzy and in my opinion there's no comparison. Ozzy out shines them both by miles in everthing .In forty years time youll still know who Ozzy Osborne is, but you won't have clue who bon jovi or Dio are.Period

That retard comment is uncalled for and the sentence itself doesn't make any sense. First you claim to not comprehend then you call someone else the retard. Lets keep this a bit more civil and less juvenile and have no more name calling.

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The film footage of speak of the devil, or just the studio release OzzyJohn?

Because for a long time the film footage was only available as a bootleg, very underground, at least here in my neck of the woods. I am not so sure about the film being doctored, I mean there is always that maybe??? I am not real sure on all that bro, I have never heard that it was cleaned up, or doctored for sure, have you????

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<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
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You like it when his voice cracks on a song like Dirty Women and Ozzy spazzes out and walks off stage?!?! Vocal lessons CAN'T hurt they can ONLY do good. It could add years o his ability to sing and perform, now how the hell is that a bad thing?!?! Ozzy has said it himself that touring is when he is happiest why not add to how long he can be happy.

**in a very election like manner**
"If you are against Ozzy getting a vocal coach you are against Ozzy Osbourne!"

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First off... lemme clear this up... im really not mad!! lol! i guess i kinda portrayed myself that way but im not!!! hahah!

and all im trying to say is i dont care what Ozzy does! i will support any one of these options.

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John Osbourne does not need to take vocal lessons. If somebody feels that he needs them for any reason, they should just listen to another singer. The man is so talented, and I am flabbergasted by the very thought that someone thinks he needs singing lessons!! You keep on rockin' me, Ozzy.

It's a great idea. Dio has one, other rock artists have them, but Ozzy is too stubborn to do that.

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I don't see how vocal lessons could help him out. He's basically going to sound the same, and so what if his voice cracks every now and then, I'm not judging him.

OK :) ... it's tough to tell online, and there "are" so many fans that do seem angry and overly-rabid for whatever reason, ya know?

This topic just seems to really go, well no where, lol.

I think maybe because it all comes down to opinions, yup thats the ticket, yup!

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I agree with Ozzyjohn, if Ozzy was to do otherwise it would surprise the s*** right outta me, yup!

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<cite>"Being sober on a bus is, like, totally different than being drunk on a bus."</cite> - <strong>Ozzy Osbourne</strong>

Vocal lessons might increase his range a bit and perhaps be able to sing some of the songs he doesn't because they are so high. Of course a full SBS is impossible but perhaps with a coach we can get something like Hole In The Sky in the setlist. You might not judge but Ozzy judges himself, no singer likes to showcase their limits.

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he'd get really pissed off with someone telling him how to siing and swear at them and probably refuse to see them again!!! its not a bad idea but i dont really think its necessary.....have you HEARD black rain??!?!? and obviously his voice doesnt have the range of a 30yr old Ozzy but its his choice whether he wants to do coaching or not! hed end up giving the teacher lessons hes the best damn singer ive ever heard

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It would do him good i'm sure. For me Ozzy is unique and already awesome in his own way. But sure it would certainly help him. s***, even Andrea Botticelli has a vocal coach!

Listen, Ozzy is so amazing and incredibly talented. If his voice cracks... its ok. let it go! And i dont want Ozzy to sound like Dio or Bon Jovi!!! I want him to sound like Ozzy!! I mean, come on! if he wants a voice coach then good for him thats great but if not even better!

There is nobody like Ozzy Osbourne. There will never be anyone even close to being Ozzy Osbourne. So let him be himself and people who dont really appreciate him and his unique voice can go screw. There is nobody in this world that sounds like him and when i hear his voice its like i can finially relax and its a way to escape without endangering society!! lol! i really dont want him to change. I love him the way he is!!

I dont mean to offend anyone, i just am putting in my 2 cents on the topic!! :]
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Thanks fireball!! im sorry guys that i seemed like a raving lunatic. its true that sometimes you misconsieve people online. haha... i guess i am a loon but i dont sit home and scream at my computer! lmao...

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I doubt he would. but look at the success without a vocal coach!! it would be cool if he did though... LOVE HIM WITH OR WITHOUT!!! <3

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A person's voice is unique to the person. A vocal coach won't make him sound like Dio no more than it would make him sound like Britney Spears. Its still going to be Ozzy but it will give him back the strength and range that old age has taken from him. Its still going to be Ozzy, nothing can change that except death. You say you "love him the way he is" but wasn't the Ozzy from back in the day (with more power and vigor and a higher range and longer and more diverse setlists) better?
I'll agree that Ozzy is such a fantastic showman that when his voice DOES crack I give it not much heed but the show would be that much better without the cracking. It would aso probably give Ozzy more satisfaction in his performances. It would probably also allow him to do more shows on a tour (more shows closer together) and extend the setlist. How are any of these outcomes bad? Can you think of outcomes that are bad?

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well the coach woudn't tell Ozzy HOW to sing, he'd probably just give him exercises to do off stage that he could do in the shower or on the toilet, and then meet with him like once a week. If I ever get the chance Im gonna mention it to him.

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Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)

Well I personally don't think it is a relative issue these days with him being almost 60 years old, I am by no means saying Ozzy couldn't improve his singing abilities, but at this juncture of his career its a little irrelevant for him to do so if you ask me....

In the end that would be a personal decision on Ozzy's part, and its not like if he did get a coach I would think any less of him, so either way it would have absolutely no effect on my admiration for the man..

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<strong>Ozzy:</strong><cite>"I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy (Rhoads) from getting on that plane." (Ozzy Osbourne, Guitar World Issue 37, 2000)
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There is a bad outcome of it looking weird on his name...the Prince of Darkness/Godfather of Metal having singing lessons. Either way it doesn't matter to me. Still, I don't think it would do anything. After 40 years of singing, I think he knows how to do it himself and doesn't need some douche bag pop music teacher to show him the ropes. As far as extra shows or longer setlist, I personally don't think that's possible mainly because the lessons wouldn't work with a 59 year old. Do you really think it would give him range? Even if it did, it would most likely take away from something else in his vocals. Now that I think about it, I like when his voice cracks because it shows that he's still alive and he's still doing what he did when he first started and makes you appreciate the man for who he is and never having anyone help him out from the start. The only problem I would have is if it happens on the next studio album lol.

Lessons and good vocal coaches'd help immensly ... they do it everyday, turning non-singers into good singers, and eventually great singers. Ozzy has never been a very powerful vocalist; but, to be fair, most rock singers have obviously never taken vocal lessons. A good coach will not only give you exercises, but can teach you how to sing, and with continued coaching, your voice becomes more powerful. It's like vibrato ... the more you relax your voice and just sing without thinking about hitting notes, not only will the vibrato come naturally, but you will hit those notes! It has worked with me and with people I know. I've also read testimonials online and seen video ... take lip rolls ... in a matter of minutes, one locates his/her chest, middle and head voice ... it's an extremely simple yet very powerful tool.

As for the Black Rain record, computers are so amazing now, and I'm sure that they utilized machines a lot on that album. With some artists, when you hear them live versus on records, there is an enormous difference: they're simply not as good in concert.

God ... next, you'll have me lecturing on vocal technique lol

And thanks for clearing that up, diehardfan; good to know that you're not one of those angry wackos ... trust me, I am a Blue Coat at the Shoreline Amphitheater; they do exist.

No. The better and healthier that he is singing the longer he CAN.

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I like your style DieHardOzzyFan, you haven't offended anyone on the contrary. How could you, you speak the gospel true, f***in A.You know where it's at, rock on.

OjZoZhYn12.03.48: Ozzy Osbourne is 59 yrs young and you want him to sing like a bloke in his 30's, come on youve got to be kidding, It ain't gonna happen and neither should it. It's been a pleasure and a privilege to listen to the singer and album's evolve of the years, warts and all. he's paid his dues and he doesn't owe you or me anything. I hear what your saying but I don't agree if he wants to get vocal lessons then fine, but if he doesn't then who gives a s***. Ive been listening to Ozzy Osbourne since his first solo album back in 1980 Blizzard Of Ozz and Im still listening to him ie "Black Rain" if fact I think he's only gotten better with age, Ive enjoyed listening to his voice evolve and it has changed but not for the worse. He's not just a singer and a showman, he's a f***in rock legend. God Bless ya Ozzy

Hay fireball, do you actually like Ozzy Osbourne?
All ive heard out of your drivelling diatribe is nothing but f***in put downs
Ozzy can't sing, Ozzy's an idiot he should do this he should do that
the black rain album sux, Ozzy to stubborn for his own good,
Ozzy's vocal range is s*** etc etc etc
To paraphrase all you seem to think is, Ozzy's unoverated clown

f***in lightin up dude, and please no lectures on f***in vocal techniques

(as for the tard comment, it may have been a little over board but you gotta admit
it was a little funny)
I mean this is an Ozzy Osbourne site, not Mary f***in Popin's cum'on

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yeah its his health when that all good his voice is good look back at 2003 his health was bad that ozzfest and this voice was sh**t he could bearly sing and move around if you have seen the bootleg of camden Nj 03 you know what i'm taking about.

Of course he's not gonna sound like he did on Sabotage or Blizzard but maybe give us the Ozzy of NMT or Ozzmosis. Vocal lessons aren't going to make him sound like a pop star. Vocal coaches have nothing to do with pop music. What vocal coaches do is train and strengthen the throat and its muscles. Its just like his personal fitness trainers. With age muscles deteriorate and with the smoking he has done is throat has been damaged. When Ozzy quit smoking there was a noticable change in the quality of his vocals. When people get very very old they have trouble swallowing because their throat is weak, therapists do the same thing to help strengthen the muscles.

Weird? Yeah improving his vocal ability is gonna look weird but stumbling around on TV picking up dog s*** is normal?!?!

IMO a vocal coach for better vocals is no different to Ozzy's personal trainers keeping him in shape so he can run around on stage.

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Hay just to lightin things up for a minute check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsy7T7OB9u4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4I3cuJoIJc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDpfw9iUkVM

the middle one cracks me up everytime
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What a pile of s***, Ozzy is a LIVING rock legend, it wouldn't matter if you wheeled him out in a f***ing wheel chair
and he hummed the lyric's, it would still be better than most of the crap thats are around today!
In my opinion the rock legend order is - Elvis, Ozzy and as for the rest who cares
He is uniquely brilliant and we are lucky to have a living legend alive and breathing, appreiciate what we have because one day he won't be with us. He hasn't hang up his hat and retired like most and you know he actually gives a s*** about his fans. I for one hope never goes away and doesn't ever stop regardless

Look ... I'm in theatre, and I know from personal experience and from witnessing others that with a great vocal coach, one can gain a full octave in no time. Singing is actually really easy; you just have to have the motivation and passion; that's the only God-given gift the greatest singers have, and they exhibit it every time they perform.

I'm not gonna lecture y'all on speech level singing or any other method, unless you want me to. The common mis-conception is that singing really well is dificult. It's not, and all of the great vocal coaches and vocalists will tell you that. Even somebody with a heavy studder in their speaking voice can become a great singer; in fact, that's a technique that some therapists use with their patients. People who have damaged their throats with cigarettes and/or drugs, with the right training, can practically reverse the negative effects on their singing voice.

The vocal chords are amazing; they're a couple of extremely tiny muscles (imagine latex) that have this magnificent ability to expand and grow. A great coach will tell you that nobody is limited; that there is no difference between the vocal abilities of a wonderful singer and those of one that is not so good. And it's true.

I'd rather have Ozzy take lessons to strengthen his throat and chords, as opposed to ditching songs (due to an extremely limited range now) and someday in the near future abruptly end his touring career.

Ozzy would still sound the same; his singing voice'd just be a hell of a lot stronger. He'd also get lots of vocal advice from the coach, such as not to sing when you're really sick.

But, a "good" vocal coach ... there are plenty of bad ones out there, and people out just to make a buck and "nothing" else.

I never said that Black Rain sucks; a lot of records do use computers to clean them up and fix any vocal inconsistencies; that's all. Ozzy's range is not good; did you not read that interview where he expresses major concern over this? And why are you getting so angry? If I hated the guy, I wouldn't be here; that's a huge fallacy. Please read all of my posts; if you did, you wouldn't have said what you said. And if you are some ruler of everything who automatically knows that a vocal coach wouldn't help even though millions of people around the world would adamanty disagree, then whatever.

I honestly have no idea why y'all are getting so angry over this even when the man himself is clearly mad about his voice now; are you that naive? I mean ... please, guys.

Then shouldn't he put out his best? Especially after the ATV crash I'd think that if he could easily improve his performance he should.

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Well folks I fail to see why the emotions are flying so high around here on this subject, and with such irate attitudes? There is really no need to freak out over the possibility of Ozzy getting vocal training for heavens sake.

The reason the topic I think has become so heated is because there really is no one definitive right answer to this question that we the fan can give out, only Ozzy can give us the correct answer, results. Why? Because it will take Ozzy actually hiring a vocal coach for us to be able to see the results of him doing so, until then we can all speculate till the cows come home, because it don’t mean s***, its just a guess, or an assumption on our part if Ozzy would, or would not gain any better control, or range from vocal training.

As for me I am with OzzyJohn on the fact that it wouldn’t hurt anything if he did so, and I cant speak for OzzyJohn, but I know that I will be there the next time the stage lights go down, with a coach, or no coach in tow, I am an Ozzy Osbourne fan until the bitter f***in end damn it, lol!

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WOW! look at all the replies to this WAH_WAH baby bulls***! Man, Ozzy was awesome when I saw him in Wichita....and for his age and the damage that alcohol has created he still kicks ass! As far as stating "his voice was never really that strong," well all I have to say to that is who are you?- an ozzy fan?, cause you don't sound like one. Ozzy's voice is unique...I am forty and from the old school...when no one questioned or doubted ozzy. true rockers only appreciated him....no matter what! so shut the f*** up with this intellctual baby bulls***! a voice coach LMFAO!

people are saying how healthly he looks these day's. He has kick ass on his Black Rain tour from what I have read and seen on youtube all i was saying is that when his health is good like it is now days his voice is great.

I dont really care i mean Ozzy is Ozzy and i respect him no matter what the f*** he decides to end up doing!

Hell, if he wants a damn vocal coach [which i doubt he does] then i support him 100%.

but dont you think that the whole vocal coach thing might add more stress? he is touring right now and has recently been sick so i bet a god damned vocal coach is the FARTHEST thing from his mind...... ESPICIALLY SINCE HE DOESNT NEED ONE and it would just be more added agrivation! haha...

And his voice has cracked because of yes drugs and smoking and stuff like that. But its also happend because of age. And you cant make him younger. as much as i wish... its not gonna happen. so why dont we just shut the f*** up and appreciate him while he is here and willing to preform for us. :]

and thank you onmysix. i appreciate that i am somewhat entertaining you!! lol. and i speak my mind because i want you f***ers to hear me!!! lol!! hahahhahahhaaaa!!!

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So, rather than making his voice stronger so he can sing all the songs from his catalogue and probly tour longer, you like it when he ditches songs and walks off stage in disgust over his own vocal troubles? Please read all of my posts in this thread, not just the initial one; from your reply, I can easily tell that you haven't.

And his voice is haunting; it is very unique; it is emotionally powerful; but it has never been physically powerful. And he does have difficulties now, and why are y'all against fixing them? If he was a new artist, would we beeven having this discussion?

OjZoZhYn12.03.48:
Ozzy IS putting out his best!!!! Give it up man. I totally believe you are wrong on this one!!!

And as for you onmysix..... you are soo right!! and im so glad that there is at least SOMEONE out there who thinks like i do!! :]

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A vocal coach can fix all that; you don't know, so why say anything negative? Calm down, quit being so angry, and read my entire post before ranting and raving :). Ozzy himself has expressed anger over his vocal difficulties and decreased range, but if he doesn't want to take the energy to hire a coach, that's his decision. And age doesn't matter ... vocal chords are just muscles; there are senior citizens who take vocal lessons.

Please read my entire post ... I already addressed the smoking and drugs issue.

And scapegoat ... great post; couldn't have said it better.

Fireball... quite frankly Ozzy's voice doesnt need to be fixed is what i think. OBVIOUSLY you think differently but thats all cool because i know that at least i appreciate his voice for what it is in the present. [i dont tend to look to far into the future!! lol!]

onmysix!!! omg!!! i love those!! i watch them ALL the time!!!! that is soo f***ing hysterical.... the middle american idol one was my favorite too!!! hahaha....!

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